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Re: [Land-speed] Perpetual motion machine

To: "Jon Wennerberg" <jonwennerberg@nancyandjon.org>, "Land speed list"
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Perpetual motion machine
From: "Ed Weldon" <23.weldon@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:01:23 -0700
Jon -- THIS IS A PERPETUAL MOTION SCAM!!  Don't get suckered in.  If any
governmental entity that you pay taxes to tries to lend or give any kind of
material support other than what it is obligated by law to povide then go
"man the barriers" and scream till they stop.
Magnets don't contain energy any more than a rock contains energy if you
lift it above your head.  That's called "potential energy".  You lift the
rock off the ground with the energy that comes from glucose sugar in your
blood which your muscles convert into work energy.  Let go of the rock and
try to catch it just as it falls back to the ground and part of the erergy
you released cuts your finger.
Now let's say that you have a big strong magnet sitting on your wood
workbench.  You move the magnet over toward your steel toolbox and get close
enough and the magnet jumps toward the tool box.
Now, say you decided to fool around with magnets and rocks after you've
enjoyed a 6 pack of your favorite brew.  Your hand just happened to be in
the way of the magnet when it released the stored up energy it had by being
separate from any steel and you got the same cut as you got from the rock
hitting the ground.  That's really all potential energy. Same with magnets
or gravity in  that respect.
And by the way that kind of energy is a very small amount compared with the
energy that is available from chemical sources or even our electrical grid.
.  And if there is any patent related to this thing it likely has to do with
some novel way of designing a generator  (thay may not work) to get a bit
more efficiency or is just a pending patent.  No, these guys are scamming to
raise money so they can collect a salary for a year or two until teality
catches up.
BTW, thanks for your comments. Just now read them.  Im in full agreement.
Ed Weldon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Wennerberg" <jonwennerberg@nancyandjon.org>
To: "Land speed list" <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:36 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] Perpetual motion machine


> The guys behind this company (www.nullgrav.com) are from up here, and
> the other day one of them cornered me and gave me his card.  No, he
> said, after talking about the concept -- it isn't "perpetual motion"
> or snake oil.  Take a look at the site and this video and you be the
> judge.
>
> Mayf, Bryan, everyone -- stop laughing.  You'll shoot your drink out
> your nose. . .
>
>        Jon Wennerberg
> Tall guy with moustache
> and a pair of 2 Club hats
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