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Re: Coil Over (2)

To: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>,
Subject: Re: Coil Over (2)
From: "The Backus's" <34ford@email.msn.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:03:39 -0500
Bilsteins are original equipment on Mercedes-Benz and I have seen them last
well over 150,000 miles!

John Backus

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
To: "Ed Van Scoy" <edvs@uswest.net>
Cc: "Ken Bond" <kmb2@humboldt.edu>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: Coil Over (2)


> List,
> Bilstein shocks can be found on most of the newer Chevy pickups and SUV
vehicles.
> They are a great shock. Normally we could see shocks leaking in the 50-60K
range on
> these vehicles most now you dont see at all leaking, and the ones you do
see
> leaking have 100K plus on the odometer with them, throw the monroes and
gabriels
> out. I agree with Ed, Bilsteins are the way to go for longevity.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> Ed Van Scoy wrote:
>
> > WARNING! Opinion Follows! May not be good but it's mine (Isn't that what
you
> > always say Keith?) Your mileage may vary...............................
> >
> > #1  1st off, I would go with Bilstein shocks. There is probably no real
> > difference between the quality of the Bilsteins and Koni (or possibly
others)
> > but Bilstein is REAL good at customer support. If you get the right
shocks to
> > begin with, you will never have to rebuild them. They are pretty durable
and
> > shouldn't wear out with LSR use. If for some reason you need/want them
> > re-valved, the current cost is $55 each. FMI:
> >
> > Western Office:
> > 8845 Rehco Road,
> > San Diego, CA 92121
> > (800) 537-1085
> >
> > #2  I favor the fixed rate springs with height adjustment. I also prefer
stiff
> > suspension The coils are fairly cheap & come in many spring rates if you
need
> > to change the ride. When I went to stiffer shocks & springs on my Vette,
> > handling improved greatly. You don't need much for suspension travel on
salt -
> > dry lakes are a different story.
> >
> > #3 See above. I would get the opinion of a chassis expert. My guess is
you are
> > going to want to start in the 500# range for coils.(again Bilstein might
help)
> > You didn't ask, but I'm gonna throw this in as it is also time to think
about
> > this now, and that is sway bars. Since I still have the IRS, I added a
> > heim-jointed heavy bar to the front which tightened up the rear real
well. That
> > worked so well that I added a stiffer bar on the rear and things got
even
> > better. With a solid axle, the geometry changes completely, and is out
of my
> > range of experience. You may not want/need to use bars at all, but since
it is
> > "part of the whole" I would be thinking about it. I would be curious to
know
> > what set-up Stansbury-Moore uses.(Is Bobby Moore on this list?) This
whole
> > issue seems tailor-made for Joe Timney as he builds chassis. (haven't
heard
> > much from Joe lately, he must be buried in snow..........)
> > Ed
> >
> > Ken Bond wrote:
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Sorry if this is a repeat but I sent it yesterday and did
> > > not see it show up.  Again, sorry if this is a dup.
> > >
> > > ***
> > >
> > > I am putting a Ford 9" under the rear-end of a 85 corvette and need to
put
> > > together a set of coil overs for the suspension.  Since this is my
first
> > > experience with coil over, there are lots of things I don't
understand.
> > >
> > > 1st... some shocks are rebuildable/revalvable.... Do I care in a
Bonneville
> > > application?  Do they get enough used over a few seasons to make this
> > > something I need?
> > >
> > > 2nd... Springs come in variable rate and standard?'  Again, are their
pros
> > > and cons for my application?
> > >
> > > 3rd... Since I am taking out a transverse leaf spring rear-end system,
any
> > > starting guess' as to what weight springs I need?  When the car is
> > > finished, the total car will be ~3500 lbs before we start playing with
> > > ballast (if any).
> > >
> > > **************
> > >
> > > As I side note, I sent Ed a private message asking about coil overs on
the
> > > FRONT of his Vette, but if anyone else would like to chip in a comment
or
> > > two on that issue, I would love to hear form them as well.
> > >
> > > KEN
> > >
> > >   In far Northern Calif. it is way, way wet... but then some of us
just
> > >   consider it self-shoveling snow  :-).  Hope you folks with really
bad
> > >   weather are making out OK.
> > >
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