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To: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>,
Subject: Shocks/Towing
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:54:11 -0600
Okay I have replaced all the shocks on the car this year due to Trailering
the car without it being Blocked up in the trailer... in other words... if
it was on Blocks the suspension on the car wouldn't work.... or become used
up junk.... and the wheel bearings wouldn't become pitted from sitting in a
single location for a 5000 mile trip.... or 3 of them as was the case this
year....

Just a thought... for us Long distance folks... K
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Amo" <webmaster@landracing.com>
To: "Ed Van Scoy" <edvs@uswest.net>
Cc: "Ken Bond" <kmb2@humboldt.edu>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Coil Over (2)


> List,
> Bilstein shocks can be found on most of the newer Chevy pickups and SUV
vehicles.
> They are a great shock. Normally we could see shocks leaking in the 50-60K
range on
> these vehicles most now you dont see at all leaking, and the ones you do
see
> leaking have 100K plus on the odometer with them, throw the monroes and
gabriels
> out. I agree with Ed, Bilsteins are the way to go for longevity.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> Ed Van Scoy wrote:
>
> > WARNING! Opinion Follows! May not be good but it's mine (Isn't that what
you
> > always say Keith?) Your mileage may vary...............................
> >
> > #1  1st off, I would go with Bilstein shocks. There is probably no real
> > difference between the quality of the Bilsteins and Koni (or possibly
others)
> > but Bilstein is REAL good at customer support. If you get the right
shocks to
> > begin with, you will never have to rebuild them. They are pretty durable
and
> > shouldn't wear out with LSR use. If for some reason you need/want them
> > re-valved, the current cost is $55 each. FMI:
> >
> > Western Office:
> > 8845 Rehco Road,
> > San Diego, CA 92121
> > (800) 537-1085
> >
> > #2  I favor the fixed rate springs with height adjustment. I also prefer
stiff
> > suspension The coils are fairly cheap & come in many spring rates if you
need
> > to change the ride. When I went to stiffer shocks & springs on my Vette,
> > handling improved greatly. You don't need much for suspension travel on
salt -
> > dry lakes are a different story.
> >
> > #3 See above. I would get the opinion of a chassis expert. My guess is
you are
> > going to want to start in the 500# range for coils.(again Bilstein might
help)
> > You didn't ask, but I'm gonna throw this in as it is also time to think
about
> > this now, and that is sway bars. Since I still have the IRS, I added a
> > heim-jointed heavy bar to the front which tightened up the rear real
well. That
> > worked so well that I added a stiffer bar on the rear and things got
even
> > better. With a solid axle, the geometry changes completely, and is out
of my
> > range of experience. You may not want/need to use bars at all, but since
it is
> > "part of the whole" I would be thinking about it. I would be curious to
know
> > what set-up Stansbury-Moore uses.(Is Bobby Moore on this list?) This
whole
> > issue seems tailor-made for Joe Timney as he builds chassis. (haven't
heard
> > much from Joe lately, he must be buried in snow..........)
> > Ed
> >
> > Ken Bond wrote:
> >
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Sorry if this is a repeat but I sent it yesterday and did
> > > not see it show up.  Again, sorry if this is a dup.
> > >
> > > ***
> > >
> > > I am putting a Ford 9" under the rear-end of a 85 corvette and need to
put
> > > together a set of coil overs for the suspension.  Since this is my
first
> > > experience with coil over, there are lots of things I don't
understand.
> > >
> > > 1st... some shocks are rebuildable/revalvable.... Do I care in a
Bonneville
> > > application?  Do they get enough used over a few seasons to make this
> > > something I need?
> > >
> > > 2nd... Springs come in variable rate and standard?'  Again, are their
pros
> > > and cons for my application?
> > >
> > > 3rd... Since I am taking out a transverse leaf spring rear-end system,
any
> > > starting guess' as to what weight springs I need?  When the car is
> > > finished, the total car will be ~3500 lbs before we start playing with
> > > ballast (if any).
> > >
> > > **************
> > >
> > > As I side note, I sent Ed a private message asking about coil overs on
the
> > > FRONT of his Vette, but if anyone else would like to chip in a comment
or
> > > two on that issue, I would love to hear form them as well.
> > >
> > > KEN
> > >
> > >   In far Northern Calif. it is way, way wet... but then some of us
just
> > >   consider it self-shoveling snow  :-).  Hope you folks with really
bad
> > >   weather are making out OK.
> > >
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