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Hank and Jean
Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines Committee, an
early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I judged his car
Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg Conclave and
the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around the first 350
BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.
I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help improve cooling=
.
As for his question, it can be done but will require drilling three 3/16"
holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phillips screws and one
in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the grill and radiator
may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.
If you want to improve cooling without permanently altering your very
original car, I have several better options.
Cheers
Curtis Arndt
AH Concours Guidelines Committee
On Sun, May 4, 2025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM Jean Caron <
vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Michael,
> I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if
> you have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will
> have to drill three holes, two in the horizontal panels and one in the
> bonnet hinge and cross brace assembly for the machined screw that holds t=
he
> top of the vertical panel in place.
>
> Jean
>
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Hank Leach
> via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM
> *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>; healeys@autox.team.net <
> healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron
>
> Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel. They
> had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the vertical "modesty "
> panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my 53 #588 did not have the
> vertical so you can see all the way thru the front. Since your car (#172?=
)
> is early; my guess is that you never had the panel. Are there mounting
> holes in the horizontal apron to receive the lip of the vertical piece? T=
he
> later parts available came with drilled holes. Not sure you could install
> one unless you remove the grille. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> To: <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT
> Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron
> I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and below
> the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel
> attached to it) missing.
> If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the
> division panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to ha=
ve
> to disturb the front shroud.
> Thanks.
>
> M
>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><p dir=3D"ltr">Hank and Jean</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Michael is a long time member of the AH Concours Guidelines =
Committee, an early 100 expert and as such is well aware of this fact. I ju=
dged his car Concours gold as I recall several years ago at the Gettysburg =
Conclave and the vertical portion was not there as is correct for around th=
e first 350 BN1s. As such, there was no deduction for the missing panel.</p=
>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I have to assume that he now wants to add the panel to help =
improve cooling.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">As for his question, it can be done but will require drillin=
g three 3/16" holes, two in the lower portion for 10-32 pan head phill=
ips screws and one in the top center portion of the upper support. Both the=
grill and radiator may need to be removed. Pain in the butt if you ask me.=
</p><p dir=3D"ltr">If you want to improve cooling without permanently alter=
ing your very original car, I have several better options.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Cheers</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Curtis Arndt <br>
AH Concours Guidelines Committee </p></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gm=
ail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, May 4, 2=
025, 9:30=E2=80=AFPM Jean Caron <<a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_rest=
oration@hotmail.com">vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com</a>> wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Michael,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
I agree with Hank, your car did not come with this vertical panel but if yo=
u have the grille removed you should be able to install one. You will have =
to drill three holes, two in=C2=A0 the horizontal panels and one in the bon=
net hinge and cross brace assembly for
the machined screw that holds the top of the vertical panel in place.</div=
>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-sys=
tem,Roboto,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Jean</div>
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=3D"auto"><br>
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tyle=3D"font-family:Aptos,Aptos_MSFontService,-apple-system,Roboto,Arial,He=
lvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada=E2=80=99s largest network.</di=
v>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_6245524722219332360divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> =
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of=
Hank Leach via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 4, 2025 7:48:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>>; <a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">hea=
leys@autox.team.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Radiator apron</font>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Michael-the early cars did not always have the center baffle panel.=C2=
=A0 They had the lower horizontal "apron" you describe but the ve=
rtical "modesty " panel was added in late 53 into 54. Photo of my=
53 #588 did not have the vertical so you can see all the
way thru the front. Since your car (#172?) is early; my guess is that you =
never had the panel.=C2=A0 Are there mounting holes in the horizontal apron=
to receive the lip of the vertical piece? The later parts available came w=
ith drilled holes. Not sure you could
install one unless you remove the grille.=C2=A0 Hank<br>
-------------------- <br>
<br>
From: "Michael Salter" <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> <=
br>
To: <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"=
noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br>
Sent: May 4, 2025 at 2:04 PM PDT <br>
Subject: [Healeys] Radiator apron </div>
<div>I have a BN1 with the radiator apron panel (horizontal behind and belo=
w the grille in front of the radiator which usually has a division panel at=
tached to it) missing.
<div>If I remove the horns and grille does anyone if this panel and the div=
ision panel can be installed. Looks a bit tight but I don't want to hav=
e to disturb the front shroud.=C2=A0</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>M</div>
</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
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