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re: "I'm intrigued to hear of your broken spoke issue. I haven't
experienced even 1 broken spoke for many many years. Do you have any
insight as to the cause? It's something that I would very much like to
avoid."
I had a couple spokes break shortly after buying my BJ8. As far as I
could tell, they were the OEM 60-spoke painted wheels, with 185/70R
Pirellis on them. I bought new 72-spoke, 6in. chrome/stainless from
Bruce Erfer and haven't had a failure yet.
I have learned, usually the hard way, that 'upgrading' one part of a
suspension can cause negative effects on other parts. The 60-spokers
would originally have been shod with 165 tires, possibly not even
radials. I put a stiffer front sway bar on and promptly broke the links.
I think if you put beefier tires and wider rims on you need to keep a
close eye on your shock mounts (one of mine cracked with the 185/70s).
ps. For the record, I posted the video because it showed the procedures
for balancing wires; which I knew was bespoke (heh) to WWs but didn't
know the exact techniques. I found it interesting that proper balancing
/could/ be achieved without the special cones, but it seemed hit-or-miss.
On 12/21/2024 6:49 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
> For those in the Los Angeles area you can go to Nate Jones Tire at
> 1896 Redondo Ave, Signal Hill, CA. They specialize in antique and
> wire wheel work. They can mount, shave and true wire wheels. Not
> overly expensive either. Phone is (562) 597-3369
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 5:59â?¯PM sbyers--- via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Iâ??m fortunate to live relatively close to Allen Hendrix at
> Hendrixwirewheel (about 240 miles) and he has done all my wheel
> and tire work for 40 years.He does the spoke truing, balancing,
> and shaving and, as his website says, he â??takes the shake outâ??.For
> sure.
>
> I know some folks send their wheels to him for the
> service:www.hendrixwirewheel.com <http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com>
>
> Donâ??t know what weâ??ll do when he decides to hang it up.
>
> Steve Byers
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of
> *Michael Salter
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:17 PM
> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing
>
> As IÂ mentioned elsewhere what is shown is all very well for new
> wheels with new tyres however, in my experience, all wire wheels
> tend to go out of round over the years, probably because of uneven
> spoke tension when originally built, and once that occurs no
> amount of balancing will resolve things.
>
> The only solutions are:
>
> 1.Buy new wheels and tyres again. (Expensive)
>
> 2. Remove the tyres and have the wheels "trued" [an advanced
> skill], strip and repaint then remount new tyres, (Expensive and
> time consuming)
>
> 3. Shave the tyres as they are on the wheel. ( Inexpensive and
> remarkably effective).
>
> 4. Put up with the scuttle shake.
>
> M
>
> On Sat., Dec. 21, 2024, 2:17 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys,
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> FYI ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD3NYLtqiLM
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re: "I'm intrigued to hear of your broken spoke issue. I haven't
experienced even 1 broken spoke for many many years. Do you have any
insight as to the cause? It's something that I would very much like
to avoid."
<div dir="auto"><br>
I had a couple spokes break shortly after buying my BJ8. As far as
I could tell, they were the OEM 60-spoke painted wheels, with
185/70R Pirellis on them. I bought new 72-spoke, 6in.
chrome/stainless from Bruce Erfer and haven't had a failure yet. <br>
<br>
I have learned, usually the hard way, that 'upgrading' one part of
a suspension can cause negative effects on other parts. The
60-spokers would originally have been shod with 165 tires,
possibly not even radials. I put a stiffer front sway bar on and
promptly broke the links. I think if you put beefier tires and
wider rims on you need to keep a close eye on your shock mounts
(one of mine cracked with the 185/70s). <br>
<br>
<br>
ps. For the record, I posted the video because it showed the
procedures for balancing wires; which I knew was bespoke (heh) to
WWs but didn't know the exact techniques. I found it interesting
that proper balancing <i>could</i> be achieved without the
special cones, but it seemed hit-or-miss.<br>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/21/2024 6:49 PM, Michael MacLean
wrote:<br>
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<div>For those in the Los Angeles area you can go to Nate Jones
Tire at 1896 Redondo Ave, Signal Hill, CA. They specialize
in antique and wire wheel work. They can mount, shave and
true wire wheels. Not overly expensive either. Phone is (562)
597-3369</div>
<div>Mike MacLean<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container">
<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at
5:59â?¯PM sbyers--- via Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Iâ??m fortunate to live
relatively close to Allen Hendrix at
Hendrixwirewheel (about 240 miles) and he has done
all my wheel and tire work for 40 years.<span>Â </span>He
does the spoke truing, balancing, and shaving and,
as his website says, he â??takes the shake outâ??.<span>Â
</span>For sure.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">I know some folks send
their wheels to him for the service:<span>Â </span><a
href="http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com";
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.hendrixwirewheel.com</a></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Donâ??t know what weâ??ll do
when he decides to hang it up.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Â </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Steve Byers</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">BJ8 Registry</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">AHCA Delegate at
Large</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Â </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:11pt">Â </span></font></p>
<div
style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none
none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in
0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
size="2" face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Michael
Salter<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:17 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
Bob Spidell <<a
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span></font></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">Â </span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">As IÂ mentioned elsewhere
what is shown is all very well for new wheels
with new tyres however, in my experience, all
wire wheels tend to go out of round over the
years, probably because of uneven spoke tension
when originally built, and once that occurs no
amount of balancing will resolve
things. </span></font></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">The only solutions
are:</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">1.Buy new wheels and
tyres again. (Expensive)</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">2. Remove the tyres and
have the wheels "trued" [an advanced skill],
strip and repaint then remount new tyres,
(Expensive and time consuming)</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">3. Shave the tyres as
they are on the wheel. ( Inexpensive and
remarkably effective).</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">4. Put up with the
scuttle shake.</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">Â </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">M</span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">Â </span></font></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Aptos"><span
style="font-size:12pt">On Sat., Dec. 21, 2024,
2:17 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
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