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Should have added to all below=85..electrics seem to pass the test which =
I
quote below:-
1. Make sure battery switch is ON and battery is charged.
2. Make sure overdrive dash switch is in OFF position.=20
3. Turn ignition switch ON (but don=92t start the engine).=20
4. Keep your foot off the throttle.
5. Wiggle the gearshift, making sure you move it fully to the right each
time. You should not hear the solenoid actuate. (If you do, see Note =
1.)=20
6. Move overdrive dash switch to ON position. =20
7. Wiggle the gearshift - you should hear the solenoid engage and =
disengage
with each wiggle. (If you don=92t, see Note 2.)=20
8. Depress the throttle about =BD way and hold. Wiggle the gearshift - =
you
should still hear the solenoid engage and disengage with each wiggle. =
(If
you don=92t, see Note 3.)=20
9. Take your foot off the throttle. Move the overdrive dash switch to =
OFF.
Wiggle the gearshift - you should still hear the solenoid engage and
disengage with each wiggle. (If you don=92t, see Note 4.)=20
10 Slowly start depressing the throttle while wiggling the gearshift at =
the
same time. You should initially hear the solenoid engage and disengage
until the throttle reaches approximately 1/5 open position (workshop =
manual
spec.). Then, while continuing to wiggle, you should not hear the =
solenoid
regardless of the throttle position. (If you do, see Note 5.)=20
If your car passes this test, your overdrive electrical system is OK. =
If
not, the following notes, related to the Steps above, may be helpful. =20
(Test, above, is an abbreviated version of, I think, Bob Poague=92s =
work.) Not
thought out by me but used often enough to trust it.
Simon
You may recall the very extended overdrive and clutch saga last year. =
Long
story short(ish)=85
OD was slipping in and out depending on oil temperature.
Correctly diagnosed pressure. Checked with gauge.
Attempted rebuild=85going only so far as accumulator and related seals.
Stymied as could not get pump out. Turned out to have been =93fixed=94 =
at some
stage with some form of =93chemical metal=94 which was coming =
loose/apart.
Took it up to OD Spares who fixed it..new housing etcetc
Why not a new clutch I thought? Sensible while you=92re in the area =
looking at
a 30+ yr old item.
New clutch=85no good. Noisy, wouldn=92t engage/disengage/play at all.
Gearbox out again.
Refit clutch. Presumed I=92d made some beginner=92s mistake.
Refit gearbox=85no good. Same
Can=92t recall whether I tried again. Lost count and enthusiasm by now.
Turned out that the new clutch kit was defective. (Thanks Mirek) =
(Genuine
B&B from AHSpares).
New one did work.
Saga over until yesterday.
Same sort of symptoms=85..
All=92s well for first 10 or so miles. Then the dreaded slippage(?) =
starts.
But it=92s not quite the same. Reminds me more of a slipping clutch. =
(But NO
smell)
Symptoms continue if it=92s in or out of OD.
Symptoms reduce at speed.
Yes, plenty of oil. Over the full mark. Looks very clean. Pretty sure =
it=92s
40wt non-detergent topped up with 30wt non-detergent. (Or vice-versa). =
Am
confident in state of the filter, magnets etc.
No, I have not pressure tested it yet and yes, I dread restarting the =
whole
bloody process all over again. I=92m not sure I can face taking the box =
out
again once, let alone multiple times.
What I want and experience tells me I=92m unlikely to get is a miracle =
cure!
One initial question=85..do OD relays either work or not work? ie, can =
the
relay hover between on and off which might lead to the OD coming in and =
out?
I think that could happen if the switch is off but the unit still =
hasn=92t got
the message to disengage from the bulkhead switch.
And a supplementary=85.how do I bench test the relay?
Simon
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<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Should =
have added to all below…..electrics seem to pass the =
test</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman"> which I quote below:-</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">1. Make sure =
battery switch is ON and battery is charged.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">2. Make sure =
overdrive dash switch is in OFF position. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">3. Turn ignition =
switch ON (but don’t start the engine). </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">4. Keep your foot =
off the throttle.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">5. Wiggle the =
gearshift, making sure you move it fully to the right each time. You =
should not hear the solenoid actuate. (If you do, see Note 1.) =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">6. Move overdrive =
dash switch to ON position. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">7. Wiggle the =
gearshift - you should hear the solenoid engage and disengage with each =
wiggle. (If you don’t, see Note 2.) </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">8. Depress the =
throttle about =BD way and hold. Wiggle the gearshift - you should still =
hear the solenoid engage and disengage with each wiggle. (If you =
don’t, see Note 3.) </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">9. Take your foot =
off the throttle. Move the overdrive dash switch to OFF. Wiggle =
the gearshift - you should still hear the solenoid engage and disengage =
with each wiggle. (If you don’t, see Note 4.) =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">10 Slowly start =
depressing the throttle while wiggling the gearshift at the same =
time. You should initially hear the solenoid engage and disengage =
until the throttle reaches approximately 1/5 open position (workshop =
manual spec.). Then, while continuing to wiggle, you should not =
hear the solenoid regardless of the throttle position. (If you do, =
see Note 5.) </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Aptos">If your car =
passes this test, your overdrive electrical system is OK. If not, =
the following notes, related to the Steps above, may be helpful. =
</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">(Test, =
above, is an abbreviated version of, I think, Bob =
Poag</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">ue’s work.) Not thought out by me but used often enough to =
trust it.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">Simon</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN =
LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"></SPAN></P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">You may =
recall the very extended overdrive and clutch saga last year. Long story =
short(ish)…</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">OD was =
slipping in and out depending on oil temperature.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">Correctly diagnosed pressure. Checked with =
gauge.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">Attempted rebuild…going only so far as accumulator and =
related seals.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Stymied =
as could not get pump out. Turned out to have been “fixed” =
at some stage with some form of “chemical metal” which was =
coming loose/apart.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Took it =
up to OD Spares who fixed it..new housing etcetc</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Why not =
a new clutch I thought? Sensible while you’re in the area looking =
at a 30+ yr old item.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">New =
clutch…no good. Noisy, wouldn’t engage/disengage/play at =
all.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Gearbox =
out again.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Refit =
clutch. Presumed I’d made some beginner’s =
mistake.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Refit =
gearbox…no good. Same</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">Can’t recall whether I tried again. Lost count and =
enthusiasm by now.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Turned =
out that the new clutch kit was defective. (Thanks Mirek) (Genuine =
B&B from AHSpares).</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">New one =
did work.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Saga =
over until yesterday.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Same =
sort of symptoms…..</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">All’s well for first 10 or so miles. Then the dreaded =
slippage(?) starts. But it’s not quite the same. Reminds me more =
of a slipping clutch. (But NO smell)</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">Symptoms continue if it’s in or out of =
OD.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">Symptoms reduce at speed.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">Yes, =
plenty of oil. Over the full mark. Looks very clean. Pretty sure =
it’s 40wt non-detergent topped up with 30wt non-detergent. (Or =
vice-versa). Am confident in state of the filter, magnets =
etc.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">No, I =
have not pressure tested it yet and yes, I dread restarting the whole =
bloody process all over again. I’m not sure I can face taking the =
box out again once, let alone multiple times.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">What I =
want and experience tells me I’m unlikely to get is a miracle =
cure!</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">One =
initial question…..do OD relays either work or not work? ie, can =
the relay hover between on and off which might lead to the OD coming in =
and out? I think that could happen if the switch is off but the unit =
still hasn’t got the message to disengage from the bulkhead =
switch.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New Roman">And a =
supplementary….how do I bench test the relay?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-gb"><FONT FACE=3D"Times New =
Roman">Simon</FONT></SPAN></P>
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