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I don't have the model number but several years back put EBC's "Greenstuff"
pads on my 100 w/BT7 conversion.
No squeaks and good braking!
Best--Michael Oritt
On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 8:51=E2=80=AFAM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Thanks everyone, especially Simon for the detailed response. Someone
> else has suggested my pads may be too hard and I should try changing them=
.
>
>
>
> Simon, First, I am unfamiliar with =E2=80=9CGirling 14=E2=80=9D vs, =E2=
=80=9CGirling 16=E2=80=9D. I know
> there was a change in the brakes somewhere in the later cars, so I am
> assuming a stock BT7 (late 1959) has Girling 14s? Can someone confirm th=
at?
>
>
>
> Also, I went on the EBC site and they don=E2=80=99t have a listing for A=
ustin
> Healey, but do list the DP2141. Simon if you are positive about the
> product number I will go with that.
>
>
>
> I am still weighing options before shelling out $150 for pads, but the EB=
C
> option is looking best right now. I also see the normal suppliers offeri=
ng
> anti-squeal kits, and may try those first after having a chat with them.
> Our local supplier, Healey Autofarm, also restore and drive Healeys, so
> they may have some thoughts.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Simon
> Lachlan via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 16, 2024 4:43 AM
> *To:* Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] FW: Squealy Brakes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a BT7 also. (MkII). I had squeaky brakes and found my anti-shim
> pads to be pretty useless. Worse, in a way, sometimes the brakes were qui=
et
> and sometimes they really howled!
>
> Anyhow=E2=80=A6..I asked around and did some research which led me to EBC=
pads. I
> think there are two or three materials used=E2=80=A6..depending on what y=
ou use the
> car for. =E2=80=9CGreenstuff=E2=80=9D is the regular road set and the one=
s that I use.
>
> According to my files(!), the code was DP2141 ie for Girling 14s. (I=E2=
=80=99ve
> switched to 16s which take DP2291.)
>
> And, with particular regard to anti-shim pads, EBC supply a rubber backin=
g
> material which you cut to size yourself. Back to the files:- They describ=
e
> the material as a " High performance 200MP pressure sensitive
>
> acrylic adhesive on 58 lb polycoated kraft paper liner. High temperature
> formulation, solvent resistance, shear adhesion and HSE, low LSE. Use for
> general industrial joining. 5.0 mil thick with 4.0 mil
>
> liner.") The instructions say:- "Cut with scissors to shape required and
> apply these shims to the reverse side (painted side) of the brake pads to
> prevent brake noise. The fibre must cover all areas contacted
>
> by the hydraulic pistons or the calliper supports".
>
> I see that I=E2=80=99ve been using EBC pads since some years before Apri=
l 2012.
> They work for me.
>
> I=E2=80=99ve attached their installation instructions which are pretty
> generic=E2=80=A6nothing much unique to their pads.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *m.g.sharp=
---
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 16, 2024 1:26 AM
> *To:* Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Squealy Brakes
>
>
>
> Hi all, I have had intermittent squealy brakes on my BT7 the last year o=
r
> so. I got it out of hibernation a week ago and the squealing is worse, i=
t
> seems. I don=E2=80=99t mind heads turning when I pull up at a light, but=
not
> because it sounds like I just ran over a cat.
>
>
>
> I put new pads in a few years back and installed the anti-squeal shims,
> but they did not work. Today I pulled out the pads, tossed the shims an=
d
> lightly rubbed the pads on a sheet of #120 emery on a plate of glass, jus=
t
> to take the sheen of the friction side and ensure the backs were flat. I
> took a file and gently broke the leading and trailing edges of the fricti=
on
> material, as the edges were quite sharp and though one could be catching.
> I then cleaned the pads with brake part cleaner. I also lightly used
> emery on the disks to remove any glaze. I had gone to my local auto par=
ts
> supplier to see if they had any anti-squeal shims but they don=E2=80=99t=
sell them
> separately from the pads. However, they highly recommended a Permatex
> product with the promising name =E2=80=9CDisc Brake Quiet=E2=80=9D [sic].=
This I applied
> per the instructions, spraying it on the back of the pads. I blew the du=
st
> out of the calipers and, as best I could, checked the pistons for
> irregularities where they bear on the pads. The calipers were re-built
> about 5 years ago with stainless pistons and they looked as new. Retaini=
ng
> pins were cleaned and very lightly greased. I re-assembled everything an=
d
> went out for a test drive.
>
>
>
> The results were staggering in that there was no difference whatsoever.
>
>
>
> So folks =E2=80=93 any good ideas out there? I am wondering if should sw=
itch out
> the pads, but mine are barely worn and I am not sure I have record of wha=
t
> I put in, so may end up with the same make. Other than that, I am
> flummoxed.
>
>
>
> All suggestions welcome.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I don=
't have the model number but several years back put EBC's "Gre=
enstuff" pads on my 100 w/BT7 conversion.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">No squeaks and good braking!</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 16, 2024 at 8:51=E2=
=80=AFAM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"msg-8536960357304781113"><div lang=
=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class=3D"m_-8536960357=
304781113WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks everyone, especially S=
imon for=C2=A0 the detailed response.=C2=A0 Someone else has suggested my p=
ads may be too hard and I should try changing them.<u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Simon, Firs=
t, I am unfamiliar with =E2=80=9CGirling 14=E2=80=9D vs, =E2=80=9CGirling 1=
6=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 I know there was a change in the brakes somewhere in the =
later cars, so I am assuming a stock BT7 (late 1959) has Girling 14s?=C2=A0=
Can someone confirm that?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also, =C2=A0I went on the EBC site =
and they don=E2=80=99t have a listing for Austin Healey, but do list the DP=
2141.=C2=A0 Simon if you are positive about the product number I will go wi=
th that.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">I am still weighing options before shelling out $150 f=
or pads, but the EBC option is looking best right now.=C2=A0 I also see the=
normal suppliers offering anti-squeal kits, and may try those first after =
having a chat with them.=C2=A0 Our local supplier, Healey Autofarm, also re=
store and drive Healeys, so they may have some thoughts.<u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers=
, Mirek<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><di=
v><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;borde=
r-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Lachlan via Heal=
eys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 16, 2024 4:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> Healeys &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@auto=
x.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] FW: Squealy Brakes<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:"Times New Roman",serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family=
:"Times New Roman",serif">I have a BT7 also. (MkII). I had squeak=
y brakes and found my anti-shim pads to be pretty useless. Worse, in a way,=
sometimes the brakes were quiet and sometimes they really howled!<u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Anyhow=E2=80=A6..I =
asked around and did some research which led me to EBC pads. I think there =
are two or three materials used=E2=80=A6..depending on what you use the car=
for. =E2=80=9CGreenstuff=E2=80=9D is the regular road set and the ones tha=
t I use.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB=
" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Ac=
cording to my files(!), =C2=A0the code was DP2141 ie for Girling 14s. (I=E2=
=80=99ve switched to 16s which take DP2291.)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"m_-8536960357304781113MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"fon=
t-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">And, with partic=
ular regard to anti-shim pads, EBC supply a rubber backing material which y=
ou cut to size yourself. Back to the files:- They describe the material as =
</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-=
serif">a " High performance 200MP pressure sensitive <u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"m_-8536960357304781113MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB=
" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">acrylic adhesive on=
58 lb polycoated kraft paper liner. High temperature formulation, solvent =
resistance, shear adhesion and HSE, low LSE. Use for general industrial joi=
ning. 5.0 mil thick with 4.0 mil<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-853=
6960357304781113MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;=
font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">liner.") =C2=A0The instructions say:- &q=
uot;Cut with scissors to shape required and apply these shims to the revers=
e side (painted side) of the brake pads to prevent brake noise. The fibre m=
ust cover all areas contacted<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-853696=
0357304781113MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;fon=
t-family:Aptos,sans-serif">by the hydraulic pistons or the calliper support=
s".<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-8536960357304781113MsoPlain=
Text"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-s=
erif">I see that I=E2=80=99ve been using EBC pads since =C2=A0some years be=
fore April 2012. They work for me.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-8=
536960357304781113MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif">I=E2=80=99ve attached their installation in=
structions which are pretty generic=E2=80=A6nothing much unique to their pa=
ds.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-8536960357304781113MsoPlainText"=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"=
>Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"m_-8536960357304781113MsoPlainTe=
xt"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos,sans-ser=
if"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-=
GB" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bott=
om:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt =
0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf=
Of </b>m.g.sharp--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 16, 2024 1:=
26 AM<br><b>To:</b> Healey List <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Hea=
leys] Squealy Brakes<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi all,=C2=A0 I have had intermittent squealy bra=
kes on my BT7 the last year or so.=C2=A0 I got it out of hibernation a week=
ago and the squealing is worse, it seems.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t mind heads=
turning when I pull up at a light, but not because it sounds like I just r=
an over a cat.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D=
"EN-US">I put new pads in a few years back and installed the anti-squeal sh=
ims, but they did not work. =C2=A0=C2=A0Today I pulled out the pads, tossed=
the shims and lightly rubbed the pads on a sheet of #120 emery on a plate =
of glass, just to take the sheen of the friction side and ensure the backs =
were flat.=C2=A0 I took a file and gently broke the leading and trailing ed=
ges of the friction material, as the edges were quite sharp and though one =
could be catching.=C2=A0 I then cleaned the pads with brake part cleaner.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 I also lightly used emery on the disks to remove any glaze. =
=C2=A0=C2=A0I had gone to my local auto parts supplier to see if=C2=A0 they=
had any anti-squeal shims but they don=E2=80=99t sell them separately from=
the pads.=C2=A0 However, they highly recommended a Permatex product with t=
he promising name =E2=80=9CDisc Brake Quiet=E2=80=9D [sic]. =C2=A0=C2=A0Thi=
s I applied per the instructions, spraying it on the back of the pads.=C2=
=A0 I blew the dust out of the calipers and, as best I could, checked the p=
istons for irregularities where they bear on the pads.=C2=A0 The calipers w=
ere re-built about 5 years ago with stainless pistons and they looked as ne=
w.=C2=A0 Retaining pins were cleaned and very lightly greased.=C2=A0 I re-a=
ssembled everything and went =C2=A0out for a test drive.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The results were staggeri=
ng in that there was no difference whatsoever.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">So folks =E2=80=93 any good ideas o=
ut there?=C2=A0 I am wondering if should switch out the pads, but mine are =
barely worn and I am not sure I have record of what I put in, so may end up=
with the same make.=C2=A0 Other than that, I am flummoxed.<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">All suggestions welcom=
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