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To: llennep@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel consumption
From: David Nock via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2022 10:58:35 -0700
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If your fuel problem started after the engine rebuild, there is a =
problem in the rebuild. A new engine may get a little lower fuel mileage =
at first but after the first hundred miles or so the engine is what it =
is going to be.

I would recommend checking the ignition timing, carb needles, float =
levels, and valve adjustments. If you increased the compression 10:1 =
then there may be the reason.=20

I would double check the cam timing. It is very easy to set wrong, and =
can be compensated for by advancing the timing. But you will have =
limited power and poor fuel economy.

David Nock
British Car Specialists



> On Jul 3, 2022, at 9:51 AM, llennep--- via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Thanks Bob.  Useful info.
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> Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2022 11:17 am
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel consumption
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> A friend and I used to take a long road trip--up to 5,000 miles--in my =
BJ8 every year for over 20 years. He checked our mileage at every fuel =
stop--useful if your gas gauge goes on the fritz--and I checked the =
odometer against the roadside markers (it was spot on). Through three =
engines the mileage stayed very nearly the same: 15MPUSG in stop-and-go =
city driving, best I got was 25 on 'slow' (55MPH), flat highway driving =
(eastern Oregon, when the troopers used to enforce it) and at freeway =
speeds (70-75MPH) I got around 18.  When I went from the 3.9 rear end to =
a 3.54 I expected a mileage 'bonus,' but at most I got a tenth or two =
better MPG.
>=20
> 29.6 miles per USG is extraordinary; these conversations come around =
every few years and no on ever claimed much more than I was getting.=20
>=20
>=20
> On 7/2/2022 8:48 PM, m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca =
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> Hi listers,  As you might recall, I just had the engine rebuilt on my =
BT7 last year.  I only have 670 miles on it so far.  My fuel consumption =
seems exceptionally high.  I have just checked on one fill up, and need =
to repeat to be more certain, but on the last tank I got an awful 10.1 =
miles to the Imperial Gallon (14.8 miles/US gal).  I used to get about =
double that.
>=20
> I have checked the tune on the carbs using the usual method and =
checked it with a quick plug check (I have yet  to do a proper plug =
chop), and if anything I think I am running a bit on the lean side.  The =
exhaust seems good, just rich when the choke is on, however the engine =
does =E2=80=9Chunt=E2=80=9D a little when at idle.  It runs beautifully =
otherwise.  No fuel leaks at all.
> =20
> My questions:  1) what are others getting for fuel consumption? And 2) =
any thoughts on how to improve it?
> =20
> Thank all - Mirek
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David Nock
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Stockton Ca   (209) 948-8767
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">If =
your fuel problem started after the engine rebuild, there is a problem =
in the rebuild. A new engine may get a little lower fuel mileage at =
first but after the first hundred miles or so the engine is what it is =
going to be.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I would =
recommend checking the ignition timing, carb needles, float levels, and =
valve adjustments. If you increased the compression 10:1 then there may =
be the reason.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">I would double check the cam timing. It is very easy to set =
wrong, and can be compensated for by advancing the timing. But you will =
have limited power and poor fuel economy.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">David Nock</div><div class=3D"">British =
Car Specialists</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jul 3, 2022, at 9:51 AM, llennep--- via =
Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Thanks Bob. &nbsp;Useful info.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: helvetica, arial; font-size: =
10pt;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" class=3D"">Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2022 =
11:17 am<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel consumption<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div id=3D"yiv4316669477" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">A friend and I used to take a long road trip--up to 5,000 =
miles--in my BJ8 every year for over 20 years. He checked our mileage at =
every fuel stop--useful if your gas gauge goes on the fritz--and I =
checked the odometer against the roadside markers (it was spot on). =
Through three engines the mileage stayed very nearly the same: 15MPUSG =
in stop-and-go city driving, best I got was 25 on 'slow' (55MPH), flat =
highway driving (eastern Oregon, when the troopers used to enforce it) =
and at freeway speeds (70-75MPH) I got around 18.&nbsp; When I went from =
the 3.9 rear end to a 3.54 I expected a mileage 'bonus,' but at most I =
got a tenth or two better MPG.<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D"">29.6 miles per USG is extraordinary; these =
conversations come around every few years and no on ever claimed much =
more than I was getting.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><div id=3D"yiv4316669477yqt64688" =
class=3D"yiv4316669477yqt4486129123"><div =
class=3D"yiv4316669477moz-cite-prefix">On 7/2/2022 8:48 PM,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener =
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca"; =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca"; =
class=3D"yiv4316669477moz-txt-link-abbreviated">m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>=
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv4316669477yqt30426" =
class=3D"yiv4316669477yqt4486129123"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"yiv4316669477WordSection1"><div class=3D"yiv4316669477MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">Hi listers,&nbsp; As you might recall, I just had the =
engine rebuilt on my BT7 last year.&nbsp; I only have 670 miles on it so =
far.&nbsp; My fuel consumption seems exceptionally high.&nbsp; I have =
just checked on one fill up, and need to repeat to be more certain, but =
on the last tank I got an awful 10.1 miles to the Imperial Gallon (14.8 =
miles/US gal).&nbsp; I used to get about double that.<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"">I have checked the tune on the =
carbs using the usual method and checked it with a quick plug check (I =
have yet&nbsp; to do a proper plug chop), and if anything I think I am =
running a bit on the lean side.&nbsp; The exhaust seems good, just rich =
when the choke is on, however the engine does =E2=80=9Chunt=E2=80=9D a =
little when at idle.&nbsp; It runs beautifully otherwise.&nbsp; No fuel =
leaks at all.</div><div class=3D"yiv4316669477MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: =
0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv4316669477MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">My questions:&nbsp; 1) what are others getting for fuel =
consumption? And 2) any thoughts on how to improve it?</div><div =
class=3D"yiv4316669477MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"yiv4316669477MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thank all - Mirek</div></div><br =
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