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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil loss
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:15:28 -0700
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Given a choice, I'd take the Sabrejet over the car.


On 4/18/2022 3:14 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> Funnily, in a sick kinda way, this movie about the last car on earth 
> was set in 2011, the year my BMW was made:
>
> https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=tt0082642&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi 
> <https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=tt0082642&ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi>
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John 
> Vrugtman via Healeys
> *Sent:* April 18, 2022 6:04 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss
>
> It will eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just 
> tell where to take us, leave it at our destination and just pick 
> another one for the ride back.  All older driver required cars being 
> deemed illegal.
>
> John    (won't be there for that)
> 66/64 BJ8s
>
> On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
>
>     My 2011 BMW is also dipstickless.  I think some bean-counter or HR
>     autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks, meaning the
>     marketing people, but the message ended up being sent to the
>     engineering department.
>
>     I sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about 300
>     pages of generally unhelpful information and when I once had to
>     add brake fluid could not even tell me where the reservoir was
>     located, telling me to see the dealer (like hell, the interweb
>     directed me to remove a plastic cover near the wiper linkage and I
>     did this mystifying and most complicated task myself), yet the 100
>     page Instruction Manual for my â??48 M.G.TC explains how to R&R the
>     head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even how to adjust the
>     back-lash on the differential crown-wheel and pinion.
>
>     I remember when BMWâ??s motto was â??A Driverâ??s Carâ??.  Now it must be
>     something like â??A car to look good in at the golf club inâ?? or
>     something similar. They certainly lost their path in my opinion.
>
>     Mirek
>
>     *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
>     via Healeys
>     *Sent:* April 17, 2022 4:01 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil loss
>
>     Yeah, I went to check the oil in my wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick.
>     I talk into a mechanic I know and he told me they don't have them
>     anymore. Later on I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no
>     dipstick. The way you check the oil on this one is you have to be
>     on a perfectly flat surface with the card operating temperature
>     and running, then you step through the menu and there's something
>     on there about checking the oil it takes one or two minutes and
>     comes back and tells you how full it is. Personally, I think the
>     whole thing defies logic, the dipstick was easier. Plus, in a
>     pinch, you always had something to stick the marshmallows on at
>     the fire pit.
>
>     On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com>
>     wrote:
>
>         I had a very interesting incident with my Audi A6 turbo.
>
>         I started the car a few mornings ago and after about 5
>         minutes, the dashboard screen popped up a message saying
>         "Caution reduce your oil level.  Contact your dealer."   I was
>         somewhat surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck into
>         my garage overnight and added oil to the engine.  So, I
>         decided to check the oil level. After lifting the hood, I
>         could not find the dipstick for the oil or for the
>         transmission.  I called the dealer who told me to drive the
>         car very slowly to the dealership.  At the dealership, the car
>         was examined (electronically I suppose) and I was told
>         everything was fine.  I was informed that the radar sensors in
>         the front grill sometimes get too wet and could cause false
>         oil messages.
>
>         I was told that my car does not have oil and
>         transmission dipsticks.  It seems that the computers read
>         everything and flash messages when something is wrong.
>
>         So, check the moisture content of the radar sensors in the
>         front grill of your Healey if your car gives you an oil level
>         message.
>
>         I'm just mentioning,
>
>         Fred
>
>         66 BJ8
>
>

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    Given a choice, I'd take the Sabrejet over the car.<br>
    <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/18/2022 3:14 PM, m.g.sharp--- via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Funnily,
            in a sick kinda way, this movie about the last car on earth
            was set in 2011, the year my BMW was made:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a
href="https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=tt0082642&amp;ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi";
              
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.imdb.com/video/vi2453586713?playlistId=tt0082642&amp;ref_=tt_pr_ov_vi</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>John Vrugtman via Healeys<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> April 18, 2022 6:04 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil loss<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">It will
          eventually end up with driverless electric cars that we just
          tell where to take us, leave it at our destination and just
          pick another one for the ride back.  All older driver required
          cars being deemed illegal.<br>
          <br>
          John    (won't be there for that)<br>
          66/64 BJ8s <o:p></o:p></p>
        <div>
          <p class="MsoNormal">On 4/18/2022 5:41 PM, m.g.sharp--- via
            Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
        </div>
        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">My
              2011 BMW is also dipstickless.  I think some bean-counter
              or HR autonom told management to get rid of the dipsticks,
              meaning the marketing people, but the message ended up
              being sent to the engineering department.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
              sometimes reflect that the manual for my bimmer is about
              300 pages of generally unhelpful information and when I
              once had to add brake fluid could not even tell me where
              the reservoir was located, telling me to see the dealer
              (like hell, the interweb directed me to remove a plastic
              cover near the wiper linkage and I did this mystifying and
              most complicated task myself), yet the 100 page
              Instruction Manual for my â??48 M.G.TC explains how to
              R&amp;R the head, engine, gearbox, do a de-coke, and even
              how to adjust the back-lash on the differential
              crown-wheel and pinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
              remember when BMWâ??s motto was â??A Driverâ??s Carâ??.  Now it
              must be something like â??A car to look good in at the golf
              club inâ?? or something similar. They certainly lost their
              path in my opinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Mirek</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span 
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                lang="EN-US"> Healeys <a
                  href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                  
moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Ryan via Healeys<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> April 17, 2022 4:01 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Fred Wescoe <a
                  href="mailto:fredwescoe@gmail.com";
                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;fredwescoe@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a
                  href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil loss</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Yeah, I went to check the oil in my
              wife's 2015 BMW, no dipstick. I talk into a mechanic I
              know and he told me they don't have them anymore. Later on
              I bought a 2015 Mini Cooper s, again, no dipstick. The way
              you check the oil on this one is you have to be on a
              perfectly flat surface with the card operating temperature
              and running, then you step through the menu and there's
              something on there about checking the oil it takes one or
              two minutes and comes back and tells you how full it is.
              Personally, I think the whole thing defies logic, the
              dipstick was easier. Plus, in a pinch, you always had
              something to stick the marshmallows on at the fire 
pit.<o:p></o:p></p>
          </div>
          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <div>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 17, 2022, 8:34 AM Fred
                Wescoe &lt;<a href="mailto:fredwescoe@gmail.com";
                  moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fredwescoe@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">I had a very interesting
                  incident with my Audi A6 turbo.   <o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">I started the car a few mornings
                    ago and after about 5 minutes, the dashboard screen
                    popped up a message saying "Caution reduce your oil
                    level.  Contact your dealer."   I was somewhat
                    surprised at the message, thinking someone snuck
                    into my garage overnight and added oil to the
                    engine.  So, I decided to check the oil level. 
                    After lifting the hood, I could not find the
                    dipstick for the oil or for the transmission.  I
                    called the dealer who told me to drive the car very
                    slowly to the dealership.  At the dealership, the
                    car was examined (electronically I suppose) and I
                    was told everything was fine.  I was informed that
                    the radar sensors in the front grill sometimes get
                    too wet and could cause false oil 
messages.  <o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">I was told that my car does
                    not have oil and transmission dipsticks.  It seems
                    that the computers read everything and flash
                    messages when something is wrong.<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">So, check the moisture content of
                    the radar sensors in the front grill of your Healey
                    if your car gives you an oil level 
message.  <o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">I'm just mentioning,<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Fred<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">66 BJ8<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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