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Absolutely true Hank, but this does not explain why I have encountered the
same anomaly on more than one engine.
I think I still have a couple of never disassembled engines back at the
shop ... when I'm next there I'll take a closer look.
M
On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 4:21 PM <gradea1@charter.net> wrote:
>
> I agree with Ira-production shortage-there were more than one supplier
> punching out these washers for the British auto industry using different
> jigs. Back then they didn't care what the shape was, but they desperately
> needed to ship cars to recover from the war. Mix and match was the order of
> the day.
>
> Here is a quote from my article about Austin from BMC Chief Leonard Lord:
> After the war, the economy in Britain was also in ruins. Efforts by the
> government to improve it, only added restrictions to automobile
> manufacturing. It was a desperate time for Austin, and Lord decreed: "Get
> the stuff in by hook or crook...just get it in." So many materials were in
> demand but the scarce supply affected production and profits.
>
> Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "Michael Salter"
> To: "Skip Saunders"
> Cc: "healeylist"
> Sent: Sunday January 3 2021 12:54:26PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cylinder engine detail
>
> Good observation Skip and one that made me go back and look again ..
>
> [image: image.png]
> As you can see the sides of one of the 2 odd washers (both are the same)
> are absolutely parallel.
> It would take someone with a lot of skill to shear the sides off
> individually to achieve that degree of accuracy on both washers and really
> ... would anyone go to that much effort?
>
>
> [image: image.png]
> Additionally the washers have been punched out, not ground or filed to
> size as is evident from the shear marks on the sides.
>
> I realize that this is totally insignificant in the scheme of things but
> being a very poor sleeper I tend to stay awake at night and think about
> these things. :-)
>
> I have found that there is usually a good explanation for these things but
> this has me stumped.
>
> Please ... help me get a good night's sleep.
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 1:28 PM Skip Saunders <tfsbj7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Judging by the curvature of the washers, the five appear to be of the
>> original manufactured type. The two appear to be regular washers that have
>> been ground down to fit in the narrow channel. Do you see the same
>> disparity among washers in the oil pan (it too uses those types of narrow
>> channel compatible washers I believe.)
>> Thanks
>> -skip-
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:57 PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm working on an early 3000 engine and have found these 2 different
>>> types of
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Absolutely true Hank, but this does not e=
xplain why I have encountered the same anomaly on more than one engine.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-seri=
f;font-size:small">I think I still have a couple of never disassembled engi=
nes back at the shop ... when I'm next there I'll take a closer loo=
k.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,san=
s-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br></div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan =
3, 2021 at 4:21 PM <<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net";>gradea1@chart=
er.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left=
:1ex"><div><br>I agree with Ira-production shortage-there were more than on=
e supplier punching out these washers for the British auto industry using d=
ifferent jigs. Back then they didn't care what the shape was, but they =
desperately needed to ship cars to recover from the war. Mix and match was =
the order of the day.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Here is a quote from my arti=
cle about Austin from BMC Chief Leonard Lord:=C2=A0 After the war, the econ=
omy in Britain was also in ruins. Efforts by the government to improve
it, only added restrictions to automobile manufacturing. It was a desperate=
time for Austin,
and Lord decreed: "Get the stuff in by hook or crook...just get it in.=
" So many materials were
in demand but the scarce supply affected production and profits.</div><div>=
=C2=A0</div><div>Hank<br><div></div><p>------------------------------------=
-----</p>From: "Michael Salter" <u></u><br>To: "Skip Saunder=
s"<br>Cc: "healeylist"<br>Sent: Sunday January 3 2021 12:54:=
26PM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cylinder engine detail<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Good
observation Skip and one that made me go back and look again
..</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><img src=3D"http:///index.php/inbox/attachment=
/filenameOriginal/image.png/filenamefs/INBOX44176f2c9dea0da34ccd23102a1ae35=
5639df" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"309" height=3D"559"></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">As you can
see the sides of one of the 2 odd washers (both are the same) are
absolutely parallel.<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">It would
take someone with a lot of skill to shear the sides off
individually to achieve that degree of accuracy on both washers and
really ... would anyone go to that much effort?<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><img src=3D"http:///index.php/inbox/attachment=
/filenameOriginal/image.png/filenamefs/INBOX44176d2b5ca33bd970f64a6301fa75a=
e2eb22" alt=3D"image.png" width=3D"285" height=3D"559"></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Additionally
the washers have been punched out, not ground or filed to size as
is evident from the shear marks on the sides.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">I realize
that this is totally insignificant in the scheme of things but
being a very poor sleeper I tend to stay awake at night and think
about these things. :-)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have found
that there is usually a good explanation for these things but this
has me stumped.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Please ...
help me get a good night's sleep.<br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br></div>
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,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
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,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:"comic sans ms"=
,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br><br><br></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 1:28 PM
Skip Saunders <<a>tfsbj7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Judging by the curvature of the washers, the five
appear to be of the original manufactured type.=C2=A0 The two
appear to be regular washers that have been ground down to fit in
the narrow channel.=C2=A0 Do you see the same disparity among
washers in the oil pan (it too uses those types of narrow channel
compatible washers I believe.)
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>-skip-</div>
</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 12:57 PM
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<div>I'm working on an early 3000 engine and have found
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