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Re: [Healeys] interesting BN1 "survivor"

To: Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] interesting BN1 "survivor"
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:40:41 -0400
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Curt--

I was referring to the dropping of the hyphen when the badging, and name,
changed from "Austin-Healey" to "Austin Healey".  I believe this was some
time around the release of BN/BT 7's but may be wrong on that.

In any case changing a car's badging/logo, much less the brand's formal
name is, to my mind, much too big a deal to lay at the feet of a supplier's
mistake.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:23 PM Curtis Arndt <cnaarndt@gmail.com> wrote:

> Healey became Austin Healey at the 1952 Earls court Motor show after DMH
> and Leonard Lord made a deal, and Roger Menadue made a new bonnet badge
> overnight.
>
> One can assume that since Austin already had a ready supply of Austin of
> England badges, that these were just put on the boot lid since after all,
> I'm certain Leonard Lord wanted everyone to know that while this "new car=
"
> was an Austin Healey, it was also an Austin of England car.  Exactly why
> the change was made in early 1955, who knows.  My guess is that by then,
> the Austin Healey name was such a success and established, that it could
> stand on its own...
>
> One man's opinion.
>
> Curt
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:15 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And I still have a question to which no one seems to have a
>> definitive answer: Why (not when) did "Austin-Healey"
>> become "Austin Healey"?
>>
>> I've heard various theories including the one where the supplier made a
>> mistake and the factory took them at a discount and changed the company
>> name but that really makes little sense.
>>
>> Does anyone *really* know the reason?
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> Just a small point. There was not an issue of old stock because cars
>>> like the A70 Hereford and the A40 Somerset used them until they were ph=
ased
>>> out some time later.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 16:28, Ken Fleming via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very nice car. Appears to have good bones ! Great car to drive or
>>>> restore.
>>>> My car  160595 ,8/54 build also has Austin of England badge . Not sure
>>>> where the change of badge occurred but  believe it was end of August .=
 Also
>>>> rear pods were added to BN1 about same time.Mine was late Aug and has =
pods
>>>> and early badge. I=E2=80=99m certain during the change point they were=
 using all of
>>>> old stock before installing new badge.
>>>> Ken
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>>> Eric--
>>>>
>>>> My car is #222333 built 12/54 and also has an "Austin of England" badg=
e
>>>> on the boot.
>>>>
>>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:04 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow, very nice car. If that is indeed the original material on the
>>>>> seats it's amazing that it's held up so well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/27/2020 12:31 AM, Eric Metzner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi gents,
>>>>> perhaps of interst for some of you - Carmine red survivor,
>>>>> built january 1955 BN1, 16883 original miles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some nice pictures can be found on:
>>>>> https://carrosso.nl/home-oud/for-sale/austin-healey-100-bn1-carmin-re=
d.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Wears also "Austin of England" on the trunk lid
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Curt-=
-</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I was referring to the drop=
ping of the hyphen=C2=A0when=C2=A0the badging, and name, changed from &quot=
;Austin-Healey&quot; to &quot;Austin Healey&quot;.=C2=A0 I believe=C2=A0thi=
s was some time around the release of BN/BT 7&#39;s but may be wrong on tha=
t.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">In any case ch=
anging a car&#39;s badging/logo, much less the brand&#39;s formal name is, =
to my mind, much too big a deal to lay at the feet of a supplier&#39;s mist=
ake.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Orit=
t</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:23 PM Curtis Arndt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:c=
naarndt@gmail.com">cnaarndt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px soli=
d rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Healey became Austin =
Healey at the 1952 Earls court Motor show after DMH and Leonard Lord made a=
 deal, and Roger Menadue made a=C2=A0new bonnet badge overnight.<div><br></=
div><div>One can assume that since Austin already had a ready supply=C2=A0o=
f Austin of England badges, that these were just put on the boot lid since =
after all, I&#39;m certain Leonard Lord wanted everyone to know that while=
=C2=A0this &quot;new=C2=A0car&quot; was an Austin Healey, it was also an Au=
stin of England car.=C2=A0 Exactly why the change was made in early 1955, w=
ho knows.=C2=A0 My guess is that=C2=A0by then, the Austin Healey name was s=
uch a success and established, that it could stand on its own...=C2=A0</div=
><div><br></div><div>One man&#39;s opinion.</div><div><br></div><div>Curt</=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 1:15 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mic=
hael.oritt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">And I stil=
l have a question to which no one seems to have a definitive=C2=A0answer: W=
hy (not when) did &quot;Austin-Healey&quot;</div><div class=3D"gmail_defaul=
t" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">become &quot;Austin Healey&quot;?=C2=A0=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I&#39;ve=
 heard various theories including the one where the supplier made a mistake=
 and the factory took them at a discount and changed the company name but t=
hat really makes little sense.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:=
rgb(51,51,255)">Does anyone <i>really</i> know the reason?</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">=C2=A0</div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, =
Jul 27, 2020 at 3:11 PM John Harper &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ah100register@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">ah100register@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Ken<div><=
br></div><div>Just a small point. There was not an issue of old stock becau=
se cars like the A70 Hereford and the A40 Somerset used them until they wer=
e phased out some time later.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 16:28, Ken Fleming via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:h=
ealeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"=
auto">Very nice car. Appears to have good bones ! Great car to drive or res=
tore.<div>My car =C2=A0160595 ,8/54 build also has Austin of England badge =
. Not sure where the change of badge occurred but =C2=A0believe it was end =
of August . Also rear pods were added to BN1 about same time.Mine was late =
Aug and has pods and early badge. I=E2=80=99m certain during the change poi=
nt they were using all of old stock before installing new badge.=C2=A0<br>K=
en<br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><block=
quote type=3D"cite">On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Eric--</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"co=
lor:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:r=
gb(51,51,255)">My car is #222333 built=C2=A012/54 and also has an &quot;Aus=
tin of England&quot; badge on the boot.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at =
11:04 AM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    Wow, very nice car. If that is indeed the original material on the
    seats it&#39;s amazing that it&#39;s held up so well.<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 7/27/2020 12:31 AM, Eric Metzner
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12px">
        <div>Hi gents,</div>
        <div>perhaps of interst for some of you - Carmine red survivor,
          built=C2=A0january 1955 BN1, 16883 original miles.</div>
        <div>=C2=A0</div>
        <div>Some nice pictures can be found on:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://ca=
rrosso.nl/home-oud/for-sale/austin-healey-100-bn1-carmin-red.html" target=
=3D"_blank">https://carrosso.nl/home-oud/for-sale/austin-healey-100-bn1-car=
min-red.html</a></div>
        <div>=C2=A0</div>
        <div>Wears also &quot;Austin of England&quot; on the trunk lid</div=
>
        <div>=C2=A0</div>
        <div>Cheers=C2=A0<br>
          Eric</div>
      </div>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

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