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Re: [Healeys] OD Problem?

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, Mike Tobin <ahbt71@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD Problem?
From: David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 07:58:46 -0600
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..without actually seeing and feeling what is going on... my WAG is that 
the clutch thrust ring is hanging up on the spring posts.. Where the 
springs replaced with new. Are they in the correct positions? Will the 
oft used wack the brake ring with a hammer release the condition?

DaveP

On 8/20/2019 6:20 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> I recently experienced exactly the same problem with newly rebuilt a 
> BT7 side shift gearbox and overdrive unit when turning it backwards 
> before adding oil.
> Like you I suspected the Sprague clutch but after considerable 
> investigation the cause turned out to be the new 2nd gear syncro ring 
> which, when the box was turned backwards, was winding itself tightly 
> onto the cone of 2nd gear.
> This is something I've never experienced before but concluded that it 
> was unlikely to present a problem after the box has be run with new oil.
> This may not be the cause in your case but certainly it is something 
> worth considering.
> M
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 10:54 PM Mike Tobin, <ahbt71@gmail.com 
>
>     Hello Again,
>
>     Finally got oil pressure in the rebuilt OD.  With the car in 4th
>     it shows about 500 psi on a gauge.
>     However, I noticed when reattaching the drive shaft that with the
>     trans in neutral the output won't rotate in the reverse
>     direction.  It rotates easily by hand in the forward direction. 
>     This is true before and after the pressure has been released. 
>     Before getting pressure in the OD it rotated by hand in both
>     directions.  I haven't tried to engage the OD.  It's a hard
>     mechanical stop.  I'm afraid the one-directional clutch be engaged
>     and I don't want to break anything.
>
>     I've been a long time gone from this fine place.  Life's taken a
>     lot of twists and turns, but it's good to be getting back to
>     having to come here for help.
>
>     Thanks and Cheers
>     Mike Tobin
>     Townsend, Montana
>
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    <p>..without actually seeing and feeling what is going on... my WAG
      is that the clutch thrust ring is hanging up on the spring posts..
      Where the springs replaced with new. Are they in the correct
      positions? Will the oft used wack the brake ring with a hammer
      release the condition?</p>
    <p>DaveP<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/20/2019 6:20 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAB3i7LLP+SZMyj9y4fz5PJWRo4ri0e+3qT+LSB98kRo0dCBhrw@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="auto">Hi Mike,
        <div dir="auto">I recently experienced exactly the same problem
          with newly rebuilt a BT7 side shift gearbox and overdrive unit
          when turning it backwards before adding oil.</div>
        <div dir="auto">Like you I suspected the Sprague clutch but
          after considerable investigation the cause turned out to be
          the new 2nd gear syncro ring which, when the box was turned
          backwards, was winding itself tightly onto the cone of 2nd
          gear. </div>
        <div dir="auto">This is something I've never experienced before
          but concluded that it was unlikely to present a problem after
          the box has be run with new oil.</div>
        <div dir="auto">This may not be the cause in your case but
          certainly it is something worth considering. </div>
        <div dir="auto">M</div>
      </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 10:54 PM
          Mike Tobin, &lt;<a href="mailto:ahbt71@gmail.com";
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moz-do-not-send="true">ahbt71@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hello
                      Again,</span>
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                    </div>
                    <div
                      
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Finally
                      got oil pressure in the rebuilt OD.  With the car
                      in 4th it shows about 500 psi on a gauge.
                      <div>However, I noticed when reattaching the drive
                        shaft that with the trans in neutral the output
                        won't rotate in the reverse direction.  It
                        rotates easily by hand in the forward
                        direction.  This is true before and after the
                        pressure has been released.  Before getting
                        pressure in the OD it rotated by hand in both
                        directions.  I haven't tried to engage the OD. 
                         It's a hard mechanical stop.  I'm afraid the
                        one-directional clutch be engaged and I don't
                        want to break anything.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I've been a long time gone from this fine
                        place.  Life's taken a lot of twists and turns,
                        but it's good to be getting back to having to
                        come here for help.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Thanks and Cheers</div>
                      <div>Mike Tobin</div>
                      <div>Townsend, Montana</div>
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