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One of the details I document for each BJ8 in the registry is the type =
of nose badge it has. As we know, later cars had painted badges and =
some owners have claimed that their badge was always plain chrome -- no =
color at all. I started out describing the early badges as =
"cloisonn=C3=A9". Then someone pointed out the difference between =
cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9, so I changed all the nomenclature to =
champlev=C3=A9. Both cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 refer to =
techniques, not the material -- which is vitreous enamel. So, that is =
the description I'm using now.
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The BMC parts manual gives only one part number for the BJ8 nose badge =
so there is no change point from one type of badge to another. =
Recording this detail simply provides some data to help improve our =
knowledge of change points.
=20
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC =20
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:27 AM
To: 'Bob Spidell'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color
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Yes, these are the absolute Go To people. Used to call themselves =
PamelaDavid and were pretty much non-digital.
They described my MkII badge as cloisonn=C3=A9 but they may have assumed =
that I didn=E2=80=99t know the difference.
They were indeed backlogged but it was worth it. 6+/- weeks.
Simon
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: 17 October 2018 19:21
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Paint type and color
=20
While I normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an =
amateur--that isn't correct. What's in our badges--until late BJ8s =
anyway, which were painted--is Champlev=C3=A9:
https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-b=
etween-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/
This is usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I =
hear they are horribly backlogged:
http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/
Bob
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lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>One of the details I document for each BJ8 in the =
registry is the type of nose badge it has.=C2=A0 As we know, later cars =
had painted badges and some owners have claimed that their badge was =
always plain chrome -- no color at all.=C2=A0 I started out describing =
the early badges as "cloisonn=C3=A9".=C2=A0 Then someone =
pointed out the difference between cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9, so =
I changed all the nomenclature to champlev=C3=A9.=C2=A0 Both =
cloisonn=C3=A9 and champlev=C3=A9 refer to techniques, not the material =
-- which is vitreous enamel.=C2=A0 So, that is the description I'm using =
now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>The BMC parts manual gives only one part number for =
the BJ8 nose badge so there is no change point from one type of badge to =
another.=C2=A0 Recording this detail simply provides some data to help =
improve our knowledge of change points.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 =
Registry</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC =
</span><span style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October =
18, 2018 11:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Bob Spidell'; =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint type and =
color<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:windowtext'>Yes, these are the absolute Go =
To people. Used to call themselves PamelaDavid and were pretty much =
non-digital.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:windowtext'>They described my MkII badge as =
cloisonn=C3=A9 but they may have assumed that I didn=E2=80=99t know the =
difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>They were indeed backlogged but it was worth =
it. 6+/- weeks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'color:windowtext'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'> Healeys =
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob =
Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 17 October 2018 19:21<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Paint type and =
color<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB>While I =
normally wouldn't contradict Michael--he's a pro and I'm an =
amateur--that isn't correct. What's in our badges--until late BJ8s =
anyway, which were painted--is </span><strong><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Champlev=C3=A9:</span></stro=
ng><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB><a =
href=3D"https://beautifulantiquetreasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-diff=
erence-between-champleve-and-cloisonne-enamel/">https://beautifulantiquet=
reasures.com/2014/05/02/telling-the-difference-between-champleve-and-cloi=
sonne-enamel/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB>This is =
usually cited as the goto place for badge restoration, but I hear they =
are horribly backlogged:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span lang=3DEN-GB><a =
href=3D"http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/";>http://www.badgecraft.co.uk/</a><o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-GB>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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