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Yes, Joe. I have brought this up to the group before.
Southwick does not true or align the tubes to the housing before welding on=
the flanges. They set the Ford flanges on a long straight/solid rod, that=
is attached at the carrier bearing saddles and sticks out of the axle tube=
s and then weld the flanges on the tubes. These alignment tools are availa=
ble, for a few hundred bucks. So, the tube ends will likely be off center =
to the flanges as mine very obviously were if the tubes are not trued. I c=
alled Southwick about this. This might not be a big deal to most, but why =
not true the tubes in the housing before welding on the flanges. The i.d. =
of the flange is larger than the o.d. of the tube and the large gap gets fi=
lled with a big fat weld, instead of using a spacer sleeve. On a TR3 the b=
ig fat weld fouls the U-bolts so the weld has to be ground down a lot for t=
he U-bolts to fit correctly. It would be great if the Ford flanges could b=
e made to the correct i.d. for different size tubes. =20
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> On 09/29/2025 7:35 AM PDT Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Dear Friends,
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> thank you for your help.
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> I=E2=80=99m asking for a fellow racer. He was competing in the 6h race at=
Spa, broke the axle and rolled the car.
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> I=E2=80=99m not sure if it will be repaired but just in race I advised th=
em to fit the Southwick conversion.
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> Thanks anyway=E2=80=A6.(my car has already the Southwick axle installed).
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> Cheers
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> Chris
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> From: Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2025 4:19 PM
> To: Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
> Cc: tr4racing@googlemail.com; fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Southwick Conversion
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> I bet we could come up with a spare TR4 housing and plates to save Chris =
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> On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 8:29=E2=80=AFAM Philip Gott via Fot <fot@autox.te=
am.net mailto:fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> > We had them do a conversion about 5 years ago. Need to send them an ax=
le housing and the backing plates.
> > Phil
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> > > On Sep 29, 2025, at 8:37=E2=80=AFAM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.te=
am.net mailto:fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > > is the Southwick system still available?
> > > Where to obtain?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Chris
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not true or align the tubes to the housing before welding on the flanges.&n=
bsp; They set the Ford flanges on a long straight/solid rod, that is attach=
ed at the carrier bearing saddles and sticks out of the axle tubes and then=
weld the flanges on the tubes. These alignment tools are available, =
for a few hundred bucks. So, the tube ends will likely be off center =
to the flanges as mine very obviously were if the tubes are not trued. =
; I called Southwick about this. This might not be a big deal to most=
, but why not true the tubes in the housing before welding on the flanges.&=
nbsp; The i.d. of the flange is larger than the o.d. of the tube and the la=
rge gap gets filled with a big fat weld, instead of using a spacer sleeve.&=
nbsp; On a TR3 the big fat weld fouls the U-bolts so the weld has to be gro=
und down a lot for the U-bolts to fit correctly. It would be great if=
the Ford flanges could be made to the correct i.d. for different size tube=
s. </span>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">Dear Friends,=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt;">I=E2=80=99m a=
sking for a fellow racer. He was competing in the 6h race at Spa, broke the=
axle and rolled the car.</span></p>=20
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outhwick conversion.</span></p>=20
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e: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;"> Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gm=
ail.com> <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, September 29, 2025 4:19 PM<b=
r><strong>To:</strong> Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com><br><strong>Cc:<=
/strong> tr4racing@googlemail.com; fot@autox.team.net<br><strong>Subject:</=
strong> Re: [Fot] Southwick Conversion</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I bet we could come up with a spare TR4 housing=
and plates to save Chris some of the shipping costs.</p>=20
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a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">We had them d=
o a conversion about 5 years ago. Need to send them an axle housing a=
nd the backing plates.<br>Phil<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>> On Se=
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e?<br>> Where to obtain?<br>> <br>> Cheers<br>> Chris<br>> <=
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