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Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup

To: Mike Jackson <grandwazoo@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup
From: Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:00:32 -0600
Cc: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Mike,<div><br></div><div>Pull handles are u=
sually cable connected to the bottle handle.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>=
Some fancier systems have electrically actuated valves.</div><div><br id=3D"=
lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from m=
y iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 20=
, 2024, at 4:47=E2=80=AFPM, Mike Jackson &lt;grandwazoo@earthlink.net&gt; wr=
ote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:=
12pt"><p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">How do you have multi=
ple actuation mechanisms?&nbsp; I have a brand new FireBottle system and it h=
as one handle that unleashes the pressure in the bottle by pulling the wire t=
hat pins the valve.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
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<p>From: Brad Eells &lt;tr4abrad@gmail.com&gt;<br>Sent: Feb 20, 2024 5:32 PM=
<br>To: Ken Knight &lt;kknight@klaenv.com&gt;<br>Cc: FOT Triumph &lt;fot@aut=
ox.team.net&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for=
 Kastner Cup</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0.1rem 0; line-height: 1.0;">&nbsp;</p>
Interesting, as this may be an issue for the K-Cup this year. Running at Son=
oma with SVRA 8 weeks from now.
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>That said, when rebuilding the Spitfire, I chose an SPA aqueous foam sy=
stem with 4 distribution nozzles and 3 actuators; one outside, one on the da=
sh and the bottle handle itself.</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells
<div>Sent from my iPhone</div>
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<blockquote>On Feb 20, 2024, at 3:31=E2=80=AFPM, Ken Knight via Fot &lt;fot@=
autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So with a very short time get this done, this is the N=
ew rule?&nbsp; Had we known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a win=
ter project.&nbsp; Some of this is not hard but sending your system off to g=
et a recertification could very well be a major problem in these times.&nbsp=
; So what is the alternative, buy a new system?&nbsp; Some of us have alread=
y committed to race with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short tur=
n around until Sonoma.&nbsp; Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far I c=
an tell, not to mention a potential large expense.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We were encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA=
, plus Laguna, under the assumption that if our cars were legal in our home c=
lubs they would be allowed to run as is.&nbsp; Dropping this mandatory rule o=
n us at the last minute does not sit well.&nbsp; No one wants to be unsafe, I=
 don=E2=80=99t think the rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get th=
is done is unreasonable.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ken</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/=
?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;"><strong>From: <=
/strong><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>vfracing--- via Fot</a><br><st=
rong>Sent: </strong>Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM<br><strong>To: </str=
ong><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT Triumph</a><br><strong>Subject=
: </strong>[Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif;">Advanced warning:</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif;">The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than SCCA=
 and some of the other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. &nbsp;Notably, plumbe=
d in systems are required, and they must have two activation points, one acc=
essible to the driver and the other accessible to a course worker without ha=
ving to lean into the car. &nbsp;Furthermore, they must be re-certified ever=
y two years. &nbsp;Note that these are requirements, not recommendations, an=
d new this year (2024)</span></p>
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',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif;">For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements a=
t&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-R=
ules-1_24.pdf" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">https://svra.com/wp-conten=
t/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf</a>.</span></p>
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',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif;">Regards,</span></p>
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',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial=
',sans-serif;">Phil Gott</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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