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Interesting to read Tony=E2=80=99s comments, because my experience is =
generally the opposite. Guess that=E2=80=99s why there are choices in =
the market.
I ran the toyo R88Rs for years on my GT6 - 205/60-13s - and decided to =
try the Speedsters when they started making them in 13s several years =
ago. I find they are much more consistent - they don=E2=80=99t get =
greasy halfway through a session in warmer weather which the Toyos did =
for me. For the Toyos, about 15-20 minutes into a session, going =
=E2=80=9Coff" was a consistent issue. I find the breakaway is more =
consistent too. My lap times are a hair better, 0.5 to maybe 1.0 seconds =
- with the Hoosiers. =20
That said, I=E2=80=99m running 13" wheels in an 1850 lb car and you are =
running 15=E2=80=99s on a car that is probably not much heavier, so your =
tires may have an easier job of it. As you know, I work the GT6 pretty =
hard. For me, the consistency throughout the race is worth it, but Tony =
is right - they certainly wear out more quickly. I figure the =
Speedsters give me about a season (5 weekends), and then they become the =
second set on my spare wheels for practice sessions, etc. I used to get =
the Toyos shaved and even then it was tough to wear out the rubber, but =
at a certain point they had just been through too many heat cycles to be =
usable anymore. The Speedsters have a softer compound, no question.
In the 13s, the price diff is about $70/tire. Only one way to find out =
- get a set and give them a try!
Alternator - not sure how easily they adapt to the TR6 mounting, but I =
run a 55 amp Denso alternator that I think was originally spec=E2=80=99d =
for an Isuzu - pretty common. Pep Boys under $100. Can be wired as a =
one wire set up, plus the output cable. I was able to use the block =
mounted bracket with a long bolt to hang the alternator out front =
(single shear mount) and a lower strut supporting the adjustable bracket =
from further down on the block. I run cogged belts so there=E2=80=99s =
not the tension issue. I=E2=80=99ll dig the spare out and find the =
number, but it=E2=80=99s definitely not quite a bolt in swap.
Scott
On Feb 6, 2024, at 3:23 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
Mike, this is on a TR-4, but I've switched from the Speedsters to the =
R888R's and am very happy with the switch. I get much longer tire life =
(primary factor in the switch), they don't get greasy halfway through a =
session like the Speedsters do (or at least they did for me), traction =
and handling characteristics are very similar, forgiving breakaway, and =
MUCH better in the wet than Speedsters. I had to go plus 1 on the wheel =
diameter to keep the tire diameter the same since they don't make the =
R888R in 60 series. I run 205/55-16's, but have run the 205/50 15's in =
the past and they are fine too.
Regards, Tony Drews
On 2/6/2024 1:55 PM, finishing Touch via Fot wrote:
> I have two questions:
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> 1.Has anyone raced both the Hoosier Speedsters and the Toyo Proxie =
R888Rs. I'm curious what the comparisons would be in regards to dry =
traction and longevity. I just did some pricing and the difference =
between the two are almost $400 a set (four).
>=20
> 2. I Would also appreciate any suggestions on an after-market =
(smaller) alternator for a TR6 Motor.
>=20
> Thanks in advance,
> Mike Kurtz
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class=3D"">Interesting to read Tony=E2=80=99s comments, because my =
experience is generally the opposite. Guess that=E2=80=99s why =
there are choices in the market.<div class=3D"">I ran the toyo R88Rs for =
years on my GT6 - 205/60-13s - and decided to try the Speedsters when =
they started making them in 13s several years ago. I find they are =
much more consistent - they <u class=3D"">don=E2=80=99t</u> get =
greasy halfway through a session in warmer weather which the Toyos did =
for me. For the Toyos, about 15-20 minutes into a session, going =
=E2=80=9Coff" was a consistent issue. I find the breakaway is more =
consistent too. My lap times are a hair better, 0.5 to maybe 1.0 seconds =
- with the Hoosiers. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">That said, I=E2=80=99m running 13" wheels in an 1850 lb car =
and you are running 15=E2=80=99s on a car that is probably not much =
heavier, so your tires may have an easier job of it. As you know, =
I work the GT6 pretty hard. For me, the consistency throughout the =
race is worth it, but Tony is right - they certainly wear out more =
quickly. I figure the Speedsters give me about a season (5 =
weekends), and then they become the second set on my spare wheels for =
practice sessions, etc. I used to get the Toyos shaved and even =
then it was tough to wear out the rubber, but at a certain point they =
had just been through too many heat cycles to be usable anymore. =
The Speedsters have a softer compound, no question.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">In the 13s, the price =
diff is about $70/tire. Only one way to find out - get a set and =
give them a try!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Alternator - not sure how easily they adapt to the TR6 =
mounting, but I run a 55 amp Denso alternator that I think was =
originally spec=E2=80=99d for an Isuzu - pretty common. Pep Boys =
under $100. Can be wired as a one wire set up, plus the output =
cable. I was able to use the block mounted bracket with a long =
bolt to hang the alternator out front (single shear mount) and a lower =
strut supporting the adjustable bracket from further down on the block. =
I run cogged belts so there=E2=80=99s not the tension issue. =
I=E2=80=99ll dig the spare out and find the number, but it=E2=80=99s=
definitely not quite a bolt in swap.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Scott<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb 6, 2024, at 3:23 PM, Tony Drews via =
Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Mike, =
this is on a TR-4, but I've switched from the Speedsters to the R888R's =
and am very happy with the switch. I get much longer tire life =
(primary factor in the switch), they don't get greasy halfway through a =
session like the Speedsters do (or at least they did for me), traction =
and handling characteristics are very similar, forgiving breakaway, and =
MUCH better in the wet than Speedsters. I had to go plus 1 on the =
wheel diameter to keep the tire diameter the same since they don't make =
the R888R in 60 series. I run 205/55-16's, but have run the 205/50 =
15's in the past and they are fine too.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Regards, Tony Drews<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On 2/6/2024 =
1:55 PM, finishing Touch via Fot wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">I have two questions:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">1.Has anyone raced both the Hoosier Speedsters and the Toyo =
Proxie R888Rs. I'm curious what the comparisons would be in =
regards to dry traction and longevity. I just did some pricing and the =
difference between the two are almost $400 a set (four).<br class=3D""><br=
class=3D"">2. I Would also appreciate any suggestions on an =
after-market (smaller) alternator for a TR6 Motor.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks in advance,<br class=3D"">Mike Kurtz<br =
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