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Re: [Fot] Koni vs Gaz vs Spax - TR6 racecar

To: Mark Cook <mecook@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni vs Gaz vs Spax - TR6 racecar
From: Ponostyle via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 15:51:37 -1000
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You guys just don=E2=80=99t squeeze the rulebook hard enough. If your =
roll cage is =E2=80=9Cbraced=E2=80=9D by extending from near the top of =
the cage to the rear spring mount or thereabout, you have an ideal place =
to mount a shock that doesn=E2=80=99t depend on a spindly frame. Also =
makes said spindly frame a lot less spindly.

Bill Babcock
Beach Bum
bill@ponostyle.com
https://www.Ponostyle.com

> On Jan 31, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> Bob and Charly,
> =20
> Thanks =E2=80=93 It crossed my mind about potential rear frame damage =
with the tube shock bracket when I was inspecting the rear shocks.  Not =
a lot of support there compared to the original lever shocks.  So, with =
your and Charly=E2=80=99s comments, will likely refit with adjustable =
lever shocks for the rear.
> =20
> Appreciate both your and Mark S=E2=80=99s comments on Delrin/Nylatron =
which is also helpful.  =20
> =20
> Hope to see you at VIR in March/April.  Will not be driving, but will =
be up to watch.
> =20
> Thanks you,
> =20
> Mark
> =20
> From: Robert Lang [mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com =
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Koni vs Gaz vs Spax - TR6 racecar
> =20
> Hi,
> =20
> Go with the Koni shocks in front. The SPAX shocks work well, but the =
gas leaks out and they become "just shocks" and without the gas, they =
can foam which effects the shock efficiency over the course of a =
session. Or plan to replace the Spax every two years, plus or minus.
> =20
> For the rears, unless you converted to a coil over setup and / or tie =
your shocks to your roll cage GET RID OF THE TUBE SHOCKS. I have seen a =
lot of problems with the conversion shock setups out there and you risk =
frame damage running with those shocks. I can write a lot on this topic, =
but unless you can verify the action of the bump stops AND secure the =
shocks via rod ends, I will guarantee frame structural failure over =
time.
> =20
> So - get a set of stock Armstrong lever shocks for the rear and get =
nosimport.com <http://nosimport.com/> (worldwide autoparts in Madison, =
WI) to rebuild them as adjustable and you get both a workable, reliable =
setup and it will work without messing up your frame. Unless you do =
stupid things like I do and bottom the suspension and break the frame, =
but I digress. I've run the Armstong adjustables for a long time and =
they work great. With a little tuning, you can get rid of the rear squat =
when you tromp on it, Makes the car handle completely differently.
> =20
> Delrin is a trademark, I believe - the material is the same as =
Nylatron. You can verify by looking at the durometer ratings.
> =20
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> =20
> On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 01:24:07 PM EST, Mark Cook via Fot =
> =20
> =20
> Quick question (maybe?).   I am replacing the existing Koni front =
adjustable shocks (PN 80-1784).  Bushings are worn out as likely are the =
shocks. Same with the rear adjustable SPAX shocks on my =E2=80=9969 TR6 =
racecar.  I am more familiar with Bilstein, Koni and MCS. =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Any preference?  Spax and Gaz are unknown to me, but the external =
adjuster is appealing compared to having to remove the Koni=E2=80=99s =
every time I need to adjust the suspension.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Using the =E2=80=9Cwhile I am in there=E2=80=9D approach, I will be =
replacing all the front/rear suspension bushings.  Have purchased =
Nylatron bushings.  Cannot find Delrin products for TR6.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Mark Cook
>=20
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">You =
guys just don=E2=80=99t squeeze the rulebook hard enough. If your roll =
cage is =E2=80=9Cbraced=E2=80=9D by extending from near the top of the =
cage to the rear spring mount or thereabout, you have an ideal place to =
mount a shock that doesn=E2=80=99t depend on a spindly frame. Also makes =
said spindly frame a lot less spindly.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">
<div><b class=3D"">Bill Babcock</b><br class=3D""><i class=3D"">Beach =
Bum</i><br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:bill@ponostyle.com"; =
class=3D"">bill@ponostyle.com</a><br =
class=3D"">https://www.Ponostyle.com<br class=3D""></div>

</div>
<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jan 31, 2024, at 11:38 AM, Mark Cook via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; =
font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Bob and Charly,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Thanks =E2=80=93 It =
crossed my mind about potential rear frame damage with the tube shock =
bracket when I was inspecting the rear shocks.&nbsp; Not a lot of =
support there compared to the original lever shocks.&nbsp; So, with your =
and Charly=E2=80=99s comments, will likely refit with adjustable lever =
shocks for the rear.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Appreciate both your and Mark S=E2=80=99s comments on =
Delrin/Nylatron which is also helpful.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Hope to see you at VIR =
in March/April.&nbsp; Will not be driving, but will be up to watch.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Thanks you,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Mark<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Robert Lang [<a =
href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, January 31, 2024 =
1:40 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>; Mark =
Cook<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] Koni vs Gaz vs =
Spax - TR6 racecar<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hi,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Go with the Koni =
shocks in front. The SPAX shocks work well, but the gas leaks out and =
they become "just shocks" and without the gas, they can foam which =
effects the shock efficiency over the course of a session. Or plan to =
replace the Spax every two years, plus or minus.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">For the rears, =
unless you converted to a coil over setup and / or tie your shocks to =
your roll cage GET RID OF THE TUBE SHOCKS. I have seen a lot of problems =
with the conversion shock setups out there and you risk frame damage =
running with those shocks. I can write a lot on this topic, but unless =
you can verify the action of the bump stops AND secure the shocks via =
rod ends, I will guarantee frame structural failure over time.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">So - get a set of =
stock Armstrong lever shocks for the rear and get<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://nosimport.com/"; style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;" class=3D"">nosimport.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>(worldwide autoparts in =
Madison, WI) to rebuild them as adjustable and you get both a workable, =
reliable setup and it will work without messing up your frame. Unless =
you do stupid things like I do and bottom the suspension and break the =
frame, but I digress. I've run the Armstong adjustables for a long time =
and they work great. With a little tuning, you can get rid of the rear =
squat when you tromp on it, Makes the car handle completely =
differently.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Delrin is a =
trademark, I believe - the material is the same as Nylatron. You can =
verify by looking at the durometer ratings.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Regards,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Bob Lang<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp518536d1yahoo_quoted_6902120541" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 01:24:07 =
PM EST, Mark Cook via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" =
style=3D"margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">Quick question (maybe?).&nbsp; &nbsp;I am =
replacing the existing Koni front adjustable shocks (PN 80-1784).&nbsp; =
Bushings are worn out as likely are the shocks. Same with the rear =
adjustable SPAX shocks on my =E2=80=9969 TR6 racecar.&nbsp; I am more =
familiar with Bilstein, Koni and MCS.&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal"=
 style=3D"margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style=3D"margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">Any =
preference?&nbsp; Spax and Gaz are unknown to me, but the external =
adjuster is appealing compared to having to remove the Koni=E2=80=99s =
every time I need to adjust the suspension.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal"=
 style=3D"margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
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Roman&quot;, serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">Using the =
=E2=80=9Cwhile I am in there=E2=80=9D approach, I will be replacing all =
the front/rear suspension bushings.&nbsp; Have purchased Nylatron =
bushings.&nbsp; Cannot find Delrin products for TR6.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal"=
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font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style=3D"margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">Thanks,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal"=
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font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"ydp518536d1yiv3804697143msonormal" style=3D"margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(38, 40, 42);" class=3D"">Mark Cook<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
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0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; =
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