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To: "'Tony Sheach'" <tony.sheach@live.co.uk>, "'DAVE HOGYE'" <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2023 08:40:45 +0100
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Hi Tony,

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regardless what the manufacturer says I set forged pistons on 0,13mm =
clearance.

Runs forever, never any issues, no piston slap. That=E2=80=99s my engine =
man recommended and so we did.

My TR4 runs on the same pistons now for 10 years with one change of =
rings inbetween.

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On aluminum engines =E2=80=93 different story.

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Cheers

Chris

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Von: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Tony Sheach via Fot
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2023 17:44
An: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Cc: Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Pistons

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Hi folks=20

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I have a set of Wiseco 89mm pistons that i bought maybe 10 years ago I =
was going to use in a torquey rally engine with a set of Carillo rods - =
is there an issue with piston / liner clearances as some have said ? Or =
is it just a question of not letting the engine run over hot ?

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I have Venolia=E2=80=99s in my other bigger capacity engine and they =
have been great, but I=E2=80=99m not so sure about Uk supply any more. =
They also needed the longer Carillo rods, so if I go that route I end up =
with a set of pistons I don=E2=80=99t need.

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What=E2=80=99s the advice from the wise ?

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Regards

=20

Tony=20

Sent from my iPad


On 3 Feb 2023, at 16:22, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

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I believe that J&E owns Wiseco.  The Kipp family in Ohio started Wiseco =
and owned it until a few years ago.  I found this out when I called J&E =
about ordering pistons, or I called Wiseco.  Can't remember who I called =
first.  Tom Kipp was a top AMA Super Sports and Super Bike racer during =
the '90s.  Wiseco was a big sponsor of AMA and might still be.  I =
installed a Wiseco 1200cc piston kit in my '93 H-D Sportster way back in =
the '90s. =20

Dave H. =20

On 02/03/2023 4:41 AM Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DDE>Hi =
Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>regardless =
what the manufacturer says I set forged pistons on 0,13mm =
clearance.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Runs forever, never any =
issues, no piston slap. That=E2=80=99s my engine man recommended and so =
we did.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My TR4 runs on the same =
pistons now for 10 years with one change of rings =
inbetween.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On aluminum engines =E2=80=93 different =
story.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Fot &lt;fot-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>Im Auftrag von =
</b>Tony Sheach via Fot<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 3. Februar 2023 =
17:44<br><b>An:</b> DAVE HOGYE &lt;dlhogye@comcast.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Erik Jacobsen via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: =
[Fot] Pistons<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi folks =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
have a set of Wiseco 89mm pistons that i bought maybe 10 years ago I was =
going to use in a torquey rally engine with a set of Carillo rods - is =
there an issue with piston / liner clearances as some have said ? Or is =
it just a question of not letting the engine run over hot =
?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
have Venolia=E2=80=99s in my other bigger capacity engine and they have =
been great, but I=E2=80=99m not so sure about Uk supply any more. They =
also needed the longer Carillo rods, so if I go that route I end up with =
a set of pistons I don=E2=80=99t need.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>What=E2=80=99s the advice from the wise =
?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Tony&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 3 Feb 2023, at =
16:22, DAVE HOGYE via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=EF=BB=BF =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>I believe that J&amp;E owns Wiseco.&nbsp; The Kipp family in Ohio =
started Wiseco and owned it until a few years ago.&nbsp; I found this =
out when I called J&amp;E about ordering pistons, or I called =
Wiseco.&nbsp; Can't remember who I called first.&nbsp; Tom Kipp was a =
top AMA Super Sports and Super Bike racer during the '90s.&nbsp; Wiseco =
was a big sponsor of AMA and might still be.&nbsp; I installed a Wiseco =
1200cc piston kit in my '93 H-D Sportster way back in the '90s.&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Dave H.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 02/03/2023 4:41 AM Erik Jacobsen via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote: =
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