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from [Joe Alexander via Fot] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-3 race tires and wheels
From: Joe Alexander via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2022 10:58:26 -0500
Cc: Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
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I have a set of wires that came off a 289 SHELBY COBRA. They are indestructi=
ble.

I=E2=80=99ve run them off and on for almost 50 years.  Both a TR4A and TR3A.=


They look very cool on a TR3A or TR4.



Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On Jul 28, 2022, at 10:28 AM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Well, I forgot about two really fast Baby Doll Morgans that have always ru=
n wires and finish at the front of the pack regularly.  Wires are still popu=
lar at the Goodwood event too. =20
> Dave H.
>>> On 07/27/2022 7:04 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Run the wires if you wish ( I think it=E2=80=99s great ) , but would sug=
gest the Hoosier vintage TD .
>>> 500-15 & 550 -15=20
>>>=20
>>> They slide around a bit/ fairly period correct.
>>> After each on track session - run your finger around each wheel over the=
 spokes. You=E2=80=99ll know when there=E2=80=99s a broken one.
>>> I=E2=80=99ve raced a number of cars on wires .
>>>=20
>>> Good luck
>>> Tony Garmey=20
>>>=20
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>> On Jul 27, 2022, at 5:43 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:=20
>>>=20
>>> Erik,
>>>=20
>>> I can=E2=80=99t speak to all the various vintage racing group rules but S=
CCA banned wire wheels in road racing in the 1960=E2=80=99s.=20
>>>=20
>>> Most vintage groups use the 1972 SCCA GCR as their guiding rule set.=20
>>>=20
>>> On a personal note, I don=E2=80=99t think I would put wire wheels on the=
 track whether or not they are permitted.
>>>=20
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>=20
>>>> On Jul 27, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Terry Stetler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Erik,
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
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>>>> The ONLY tire I would think of using with wire wheels, and ONLY the 72 s=
poke Daytons with the heavy spokes, would be the old style, skinny vintage D=
unlop bias plys.  Modern, uber sticky radia race rubber like the Hoosier Spe=
edsters is a recipe for trouble.  None of the front running TRs that I know o=
f are running wire wheels.  There are very good reasons for this.
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Just my humble opinion after 20 years of taking care of Jeff=E2=80=99s T=
R3=E2=80=A6
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Terry Stetler
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:28 AM
>>>> To: FOT Triumph
>>>> Subject: [Fot] TR-3 race tires and wheels
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Triumph racers,=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Karen and I are looking to get our TR-3 together so I can race it in th=
e Kastner Cup next year at RA (she'll race her TR-6), and I am looking for s=
ome insight on wire wheel sizes people are using. I will be running wires li=
kely with Hoosier Speedsters, and am curious what others are using. 72 spoke=
, or 60? 15 x 5" or 15 x 6"?=20
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks much!
>>>>=20
>>>> Jake Jacobsen
>>>>=20
>>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I have a set of wires that came off a 289 S=
HELBY COBRA. They are indestructible.<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99ve run th=
em off and on for almost 50 years. &nbsp;Both a TR4A and TR3A.</div><div><br=
></div><div>They look very cool on a TR3A or TR4.</div><div><br></div><div><=
br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander<div>4505 Donald Dr</div><div>Cedar Fal=
ls, IA 50613</div><div>The-vintage-racer.com</div><div>Gasketinnovations.com=
</div><div>Cell: &nbsp;319.464.4711</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 28, 2022, at 10:28 AM, DAVE HOGYE vi=
a Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: #333333;">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Well, I forgot a=
bout two really fast Baby Doll Morgans that have always run wires and finish=
 at the front of the pack regularly.&nbsp; Wires are still popular at the Go=
odwood event too.&nbsp;</span>
   <br>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: #333333;" class=3D"default-style">
   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Dave H.</span>
  </div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
   <div>
    On 07/27/2022 7:04 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.n=
et&gt; wrote:
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>Run the wires if you wish ( I think it=E2=80=99s great ) , but woul=
d suggest the Hoosier vintage TD .
   <div>
    500-15 &amp; 550 -15&nbsp;
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    They slide around a bit/ fairly period correct.
   </div>
   <div>
    After each on track session - run your finger around each wheel over the=
 spokes. You=E2=80=99ll know when there=E2=80=99s a broken one.
   </div>
   <div>
    I=E2=80=99ve raced a number of cars on wires .
   </div>
   <div>
    <br>
   </div>
   <div>
    Good luck
   </div>
   <div>
    Tony Garmey
    <br>
    <br>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
     Sent from my iPhone
    </div>
    <div dir=3D"ltr">
     <br>
     <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      On Jul 27, 2022, at 5:43 PM, Brad Eells via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net=
&gt; wrote:
      <br>
      <br>
     </blockquote>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     <div dir=3D"ltr">
      Erik,
      <div>
       <br>
      </div>
      <div>
       I can=E2=80=99t speak to all the various vintage racing group rules b=
ut SCCA banned wire wheels in road racing in the 1960=E2=80=99s.&nbsp;
      </div>
      <div>
       <br>
      </div>
      <div>
       Most vintage groups use the 1972 SCCA GCR as their guiding rule set.&=
nbsp;
      </div>
      <div>
       <br>
      </div>
      <div>
       On a personal note, I don=E2=80=99t think I would put wire wheels on t=
he track whether or not they are permitted.
      </div>
      <div>
       <br>
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        Brad Eells
        <div>
         Sent from my iPhone
        </div>
       </div>
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <br>
        <blockquote type=3D"cite">
         On Jul 27, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Terry Stetler via Fot &lt;fot@autox.te=
am.net&gt; wrote:
         <br>
         <br>
        </blockquote>
       </div>
       <blockquote type=3D"cite">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
         <div class=3D"WordSection1">
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Erik,</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">The ONLY tire I would think of using with w=
ire wheels, and ONLY the 72 spoke Daytons with the heavy spokes, would be th=
e old style, skinny vintage Dunlop bias plys.&nbsp; Modern, uber sticky radi=
a race rubber like the Hoosier Speedsters is a recipe for trouble.&nbsp; Non=
e of the front running TRs that I know of are running wire wheels.&nbsp; The=
re are very good reasons for this.</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just my humble opinion after 20 years of ta=
king care of Jeff=E2=80=99s TR3=E2=80=A6</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Terry Stetler</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.c=
om/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"> Mail</a> for Windows</p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <div style=3D"mso-element: para-border-div; border: none; border-t=
op: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
           <p style=3D"border: none; padding: 0in;" class=3D"MsoNormal"><str=
ong>From: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>Erik Jacobsen via Fo=
t</a><br><strong>Sent: </strong>Wednesday, July 27, 2022 8:28 AM<br><strong>=
To: </strong><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT Triumph</a><br><stron=
g>Subject: </strong>[Fot] TR-3 race tires and wheels</p>
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          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
          <div>
           <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fa=
mily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Triumph racers,&nbsp;</span></p>
           </div>
           <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fa=
mily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Karen and I are looking to get our TR-3 toget=
her so I can race it in the Kastner Cup next year at RA (she'll race her TR-=
6), and I am looking for some insight on wire wheel sizes people are using. I=
 will be running wires likely with Hoosier Speedsters, and am curious what o=
thers are using. 72 spoke, or 60? 15 x 5" or 15 x 6"?&nbsp;</span></p>
           </div>
           <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fa=
mily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
           </div>
           <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fa=
mily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
           </div>
           <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fa=
mily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Thanks much!</span></p>
           </div>
           <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fa=
mily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">Jake Jacobsen</span></p>
           </div>
          </div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-fami=
ly: 'Helvetica',sans-serif;">&nbsp;</span></p>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
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