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Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

To: "'Henry A. Morrison'" <dos_gusanos@msn.com>, "'Philip Gott'" <vfracing@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs
From: Henry Giffin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2021 02:03:09 -0400
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Henry, thanks.  I believe you have it right.  The early hubs look =
thinner. =20

     I changed the hubs to the heavier ones with the coarse threads with =
the nicer knockoffs. =20

     Thanks again, Hank

=20

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

=20

From: Henry A. Morrison <dos_gusanos@msn.com>=20
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 10:00 AM
To: 'Philip Gott' <vfracing@aol.com>; Henry Giffin <hankgiffin@cox.net>
Cc: fot-bounces@autox.team.net; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

=20

Look at the thickness of the walls of the hubs.  The early hubs were =
thin and as the various rally departments were snapping them off, they =
beefed up the hubs and at some point went to the coarse =
thread.....................Cheers, Henry Morrison

=20

  _____ =20

From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs=20

=20

Phil, thanks.

   I removed the wheels today and they are bolt on adapters front and =
back but fine thread. =20

     The plot thickens!!

     Hank

=20

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

=20

Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs

=20

Hank;

I could be wrong here, but I have an early TR3 axle with the wire wheel =
hubs integral to the hub (as opposed to the bolt-on adapters). Those =
hubs appear to have a finer thread than the later bolt-on adapters. The =
thread change was concurrent with the switch from integral to bolt-on.

Phil

Sent from my iPhone

=20

On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Henry Giffin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

=EF=BB=BF

There is a lot of expertise on FoT and I have a question I expect the =
knowledgeable ones will be able to help.

     On my early (1956) street TR3 (ex-Mike Jackson) I decided to =
replace the somewhat rusty wire wheel knockoffs.  I had another set of =
knockoffs (and hubs) from another TR3 in better shape, but the threads =
were more coarse and didn=E2=80=99t fit.  So I thought they might have =
been from another British car, and ordered a new set of knockoffs from =
Moss.  They too were too coarse.

    Can anyone confirm that the early TR3s had a finer thread on their =
hubs?=20

    I would like to keep the car original but may have to swap the hubs =
to use the nicer knockoffs, or chrome the fine threaded ones.  Or just =
live with the rust! =20

    Can anyone confirm the early TR3s had finer knockoff threads or is =
there another possible explanation?

     Thx, Hank

    =20

=20

Hank Giffin

757-375-1491

=20

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Henry, thanks.=C2=A0 I believe you have it =
right.=C2=A0 The early hubs look thinner.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I changed the =
hubs to the heavier ones with the coarse threads with the nicer =
knockoffs.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks again, =
Hank<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hank Giffin<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>757-375-1491<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Henry A. Morrison =
&lt;dos_gusanos@msn.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 1, 2021 =
10:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Philip Gott' &lt;vfracing@aol.com&gt;; Henry =
Giffin &lt;hankgiffin@cox.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
fot-bounces@autox.team.net; fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Look at the thickness of the =
walls of the hubs.&nbsp; The early hubs were thin and as the various =
rally departments were snapping them off, they beefed up the hubs and at =
some point went to the coarse thread.....................Cheers, Henry =
Morrison<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr =
size=3D2 width=3D"98%" align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:black'> Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt; on behalf of Henry Giffin via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:=
</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2021 8:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'Philip Gott' =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:vfracing@aol.com";>vfracing@aol.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a> =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel knockoffs</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal><span style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Phil, =
thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp; I removed the wheels today and =
they are bolt on adapters front and back but fine thread.&nbsp; =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The plot =
thickens!!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Hank</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Hank Giffin<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>757-375-1491<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3Dxmsonormal><b>From:</b> Philip Gott &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:vfracing@aol.com";>vfracing@aol.com</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 28, 2021 8:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> Henry =
Giffin &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:hankgiffin@cox.net";>hankgiffin@cox.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</=
b> <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR3 wire wheel =
knockoffs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Hank;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3Dxmsonormal>I =
could be wrong here, but I have an early TR3 axle with the wire wheel =
hubs integral to the hub (as opposed to the bolt-on adapters). Those =
hubs appear to have a finer thread than the later bolt-on adapters. The =
thread change was concurrent with the switch from integral to =
bolt-on.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3Dxmsonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Phil<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3Dxmsonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Henry =
Giffin via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>There is a lot of expertise on FoT and I have =
a question I expect the knowledgeable ones will be able to =
help.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On my early (1956) =
street TR3 (ex-Mike Jackson) I decided to replace the somewhat rusty =
wire wheel knockoffs.&nbsp; I had another set of knockoffs (and hubs) =
from another TR3 in better shape, but the threads were more coarse and =
didn=E2=80=99t fit.&nbsp; So I thought they might have been from another =
British car, and ordered a new set of knockoffs from Moss.&nbsp; They =
too were too coarse.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Can anyone confirm that =
the early TR3s had a finer thread on their hubs? =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I would like to keep =
the car original but may have to swap the hubs to use the nicer =
knockoffs, or chrome the fine threaded ones.&nbsp; Or just live with the =
rust!&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Can anyone confirm =
the early TR3s had finer knockoff threads or is there another possible =
explanation?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thx, =
Hank</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dxmsonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>Hank Giffin<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dxmsonormal>757-375-1491<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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