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To: Greg Hilyer <lunkercars@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets
From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 09:44:58 +0100 (CET)
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Thread-topic: Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets
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It seems that about all sealants are performing well on the Fo8 gaskets, ma=
ybe because there is no need for it? So, most products won't do any harm, b=
ut be aware of anaerobic gasket makers : these can cure very fast, forming =
an elastic layer of some thou thickness : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak, but t=
he cylinderhead gasket will.=20
Marcel=20

Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Cc: "Triumph List" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Zondag 7 februari 2021 03:17:01=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets=20

Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyone does it but...=
=20
Once I=E2=80=99ve got the liner landing as clean as I can get it, I use a o=
ld liner as a hone and by twisting is back and forth with some valve lappin=
g compound, get a nice shiny ring on the block mating face. Clean it up goo=
d and then use your sealant of choice.=20
Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer=20
Albuquerque NM=20

On Feb 6, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.team.=
net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20




hylomar.=20

never sets up solid like silicone.=20
that means you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back,=
 mess around.=20
leave it overnight and take up the task again tomorrow.=20

the best gasket dressing ever invented.=20

Frank=20

On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Cronin < [ mailto:adcroni=
n@mi.rr.com | adcronin@mi.rr.com ] > wrote:=20


Folks=20
Looking for some background information and recommendations on the preferre=
d Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems to have worked for each of you in =
your various engine re-builds. And any comments / observations you choose t=
o share either on or off list. The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston a=
nd liner kit from BFE along with Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy m=
ain crank connected at the front with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to=
 a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with al=
loy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. Stainless St=
eel valves with 0.050 oversize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller =
rockers on alloy pedestals. BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.=
040 removed mostly to true things up and remove prior imperfections. The he=
ad chambers have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even thin=
gs out with a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. I am planning on ins=
talling Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=
=9D compression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed w=
ith a copper coating on each side. Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individua=
l gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.0=
03. Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking forwa=
rd to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this critica=
l step as close to right as I can.=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-seri=
f; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>It seems that about=
 all sealants are performing well on the Fo8 gaskets, maybe because there i=
s no need for it? So, most products won't do any harm, but be aware of anae=
robic gasket makers : these can cure very fast, forming an elastic layer of=
 some thou thickness : the Fo8 gaskets won't leak, but the cylinderhead gas=
ket will.</div><div>Marcel</div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__=
"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net=
&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"Triumph List" &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;, "fot" &l=
t;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Zondag 7 februari 2021 03:17:=
01<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets<br></di=
v><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir=3D"ltr"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Don=E2=80=99t know if it=E2=80=99s my trick or if everyo=
ne does it but...&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Once I=E2=80=99ve got the lin=
er landing as clean as I can get it, I use a old liner as a hone and by twi=
sting is back and forth with some valve lapping compound, get a nice shiny =
ring on the block mating face. Clean it up good and then use your sealant o=
f choice.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Greg =E2=80=9CLunker=E2=80=9D Hilyer</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Albuquerque NM</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Feb 6, 2021, at=
 6:30 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpa6a2=
aedcyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' ,=
 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:16px">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">never sets up solid like silicone.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">that mean=
s you have time to set the liners and go have a scotch, come back, mess aro=
und.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr">leave it overnight and take up the task ag=
ain tomorrow.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the best gas=
ket dressing ever invented.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Frank</div><br>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyahoo_quoted_3384257547" class=3D"ydp29=
84ea6cyahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'ari=
al' , sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Friday, February 5, 2021, 09:52:33 PM PST, Dan Croni=
n &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:adcronin@mi.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer">adcronin@mi.rr.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <br>
                <br>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385"><div>Folks<div cl=
ass=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv8272376385">Looking for some background information an=
d recommendations on the preferred Fo8 gasket sealing compound that seems t=
o have worked for each of you in your various engine re-builds. &nbsp;And &=
nbsp;any comments / observations you choose to share either on or off list.=
 The motor I am building has a 89 mm piston and liner kit from BFE along wi=
th Corrello rods / bolts and a Crower dummy main crank connected at the fro=
nt with a ATI Super Damper and at the rear to a Fidanza Alloy Flywheel with=
 diaphragm clutch, an HVDA conversion with alloy drive shaft to a Quaife 4.=
11:1 diff. and alloy back cover. &nbsp;Stainless Steel valves with 0.050 ov=
ersize intake thru Mang. Bronze guides. H/S roller rockers on alloy pedesta=
ls. &nbsp;BPNW 270 duration cam. The TR4A head has had 0.040 removed mostly=
 to true things up and remove prior imperfections. &nbsp;The head chambers =
have been mildly worked to smooth any sharp edges and even things out with =
a resulting chamber volume of 60.5cc each. &nbsp;I am planning on installin=
g Gasket Works 0.022 copper gasket with their 0.005 =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D com=
pression rings on the head side of the gasket that will be sprayed with a c=
opper coating on each side. &nbsp;Gasket Works sent a set of Fo8 individual=
 gaskets that has allowed me to obtain a liner protrusion of 0.0025 to 0.00=
3. &nbsp;Am aiming at a compression ratio of around 9.75 to 1+/- . Looking =
forward to as many responses as possible to assist in trying to get this cr=
itical step as close to right as I can.</div><div class=3D"ydp2984ea6cyiv82=
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