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Subject: [Fot] Fw: Lever arm shocks vs. tube shock conversion
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 20:54:38 +0000 (UTC)
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 My thoughts expressed earlier on the subject.....

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 I can only speak from my experience racing a 1967 TR-4A IRS for 25 years.=
=C2=A0 My car was very competitive, finishing top 6 at the Runoffs from 198=
7 to 1991, including a win in 1990.
I used the stock lever arm shocks.=C2=A0 I did replace the shock fluid with=
 heavier fluid and installed competition rear springs, which stiffened the =
suspension and lowered the car.=C2=A0 I used the stock control arms, but ad=
justed the mounting brackets to give me more positive camber.=C2=A0 And, I =
used nylon bushings to attach the control arms.=C2=A0 If you looked at my s=
uspension, it looked stock, but ohhh did that car handle.=C2=A0 And I didn'=
t even need a rear sway bar.=C2=A0 That's where I gained all of my advantag=
e over the competition, as that big flat front end was not very aerodynamic=
 and the car was pretty heavy, so I didn't streak down the straightaways.
If it were me, I wouldn't waste the time & money on a tube shock conversion=
.=C2=A0 In fact, I bought an MGB a number of years ago, and the first thing=
 I did was to remove the tube shocks a previous owner had added, and replac=
e them with stock lever type shocks.=C2=A0 Spend the money on stiffer sprin=
gs and heavier shock fluid.=C2=A0 And, solid bushings would help too.
Good luck.
Jack Wheeler

    On Monday, January 18, 2021, 12:07:40 PM EST, Dave Connitt via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
 Hi all,
I am new to the FOS list. I own a 1967 TR4A-IRS that I finished restoring b=
ack in 2013 (DavesTR4A. com). It=E2=80=99s running stock lever type rear sh=
ocks that other than cleaning and painting and adding new links, I just rei=
nstalled in the the car during the restoration. They seem to have resistanc=
e when I push/pull them so I am pretty sure they work as designed.=20
The car has always been kind of skittish on rough roads and I am considerin=
g switching to a tube shock conversion, specifically the one that bolts dir=
ectly to the existing shock mounts.
Originality isn=E2=80=99t my main focus here. I like to drive it aggressive=
ly.
I would be interested in anyone=E2=80=99s experience with switching from re=
ar lever shocks to chassis mounted (using the stock shock mounting points) =
regarding handling improvement or not.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Connitt
=E2=80=9867 TR4A-IRS

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">My thoughts expressed earlie=
r on the subject.....<br></div><div><br></div>
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">I can only speak from my experience racing a 1967 =
TR-4A IRS for 25 years.&nbsp; My car was very competitive, finishing top 6 =
at the Runoffs from 1987 to 1991, including a win in 1990.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I used the stock lever arm =
shocks.&nbsp; I did replace the shock fluid with heavier fluid and installe=
d competition rear springs, which stiffened the suspension and lowered the =
car.&nbsp; I used the stock control arms, but adjusted the mounting bracket=
s to give me more positive camber.&nbsp; And, I used nylon bushings to atta=
ch the control arms.&nbsp; If you looked at my suspension, it looked stock,=
 but ohhh did that car handle.&nbsp; And I didn't even need a rear sway bar=
.&nbsp; That's where I gained all of my advantage over the competition, as =
that big flat front end was not very aerodynamic and the car was pretty hea=
vy, so I didn't streak down the straightaways.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If it were me, I wouldn't waste the tim=
e &amp; money on a tube shock conversion.&nbsp; In fact, I bought an MGB a =
number of years ago, and the first thing I did was to remove the tube shock=
s a previous owner had added, and replace them with stock lever type shocks=
.&nbsp; Spend the money on stiffer springs and heavier shock fluid.&nbsp; A=
nd, solid bushings would help too.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good luck.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack Wheeler<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div>
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                    On Monday, January 18, 2021, 12:07:40 PM EST, Dave Conn=
itt via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I am new to the FOS list. I own a 1967 TR4A-IRS that I finished=
 restoring back in 2013 (DavesTR4A. com). It=E2=80=99s running stock lever =
type rear shocks that other than cleaning and painting and adding new links=
, I just reinstalled in the the car during the restoration. They seem to ha=
ve resistance when I push/pull them so I am pretty sure they work as design=
ed. <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The car has always been kind =
of skittish on rough roads and I am considering switching to a tube shock c=
onversion, specifically the one that bolts directly to the existing shock m=
ounts.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Originality isn=E2=80=99t m=
y main focus here. I like to drive it aggressively.<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">I would be interested in anyone=E2=80=99s experience with=
 switching from rear lever shocks to chassis mounted (using the stock shock=
 mounting points) regarding handling improvement or not.<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks in advance,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Dave Connitt<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9867 =
TR4A-IRS<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
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