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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 19:42:40 +0200 (CEST)
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[ https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg ]=20
[ https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtu.be/ofR6plG_gwQ ]=20
[ https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO | https://youtu.be/WDfCc1QlbKO ]=20
[ https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ | https://youtu.be/6f57pyz9iiQ ]=20
Thes links should be right.=20


Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Aan: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Cc: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Verzonden: Zondag 13 september 2020 19:37:50=20
Onderwerp: Fwd: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20


[ https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg | https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg ]=20
[ https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ | https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ ]=20
[ https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO | https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO ]=20
[ https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ | https://youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ ]=20
This should be links to the Zandvoort races (The Netherlands) of September =
the 11th and 12th.=20
My friend Karl Chandeck drove the car all the time. He was very quick : pol=
e position on a grid of 48 cars! But in the race he went off in the 1st lap=
. That was a big disappointment of course. We repaired the car for the 2nd =
race. He had to start from last position(45th). After 4 laps he was in 7th =
position. Then some bad luck came in : the spring inside one of the Weber c=
arburettors broke and hindered the trottle shaft : the trottle stayed partl=
y open and it was impossible to drive the car like that. We did 2 attempts =
to fix it. After the 1st pit stop, Karl could do some more laps and got the=
 fastest overall laptime of the race with 2'00"490. Without the accident in=
 the first race, he could have finished 1st or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a =
very safe driver, he very seldom has a spin.=20
Some of these video's will only be available tomorrow and if the links don'=
t work, you simply can search in youtube with "Marcel Van Mulders".=20
Marcel.=20

Van: "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Aan: "tr4racing" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Vrijdag 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20

[ https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ | https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ ]=20
Some of you may have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some w=
eeks ago : it was eating MG's with ease and also all the other cars except =
for a lightweight jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine.=
 So 2' 6" was good for 3rd position on the grid, only half a second slower =
than the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was dr=
iving for me : not a prof racer but very fast anyway. Sadly the engine brok=
e : holed engine block and big fire. I was always faster than the MG's but =
now being 68yrs old, I got slower and slower in the last couple of years wi=
thout noticing it. I thought it was my car and I worked on it, but I remain=
ed in the midfield instead of at the front where I used to be. My car getti=
ng faster and me getting slower : the result has been a steady state. With =
68yrs one hasn't to be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I =
hope it is not a definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. =
We'll see if I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving complete=
ly. Next race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!=20
Marcel=20


Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Aan: "Michael Deweerd" <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>, "tr4racing" <tr4racing@=
googlemail.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20



Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the secret=E2=80=
=A6.225Nm.=20




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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18=20
An: 'Michael Deweerd' <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>; 'tr4racing@googlemail.co=
m' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: 'Kas Kastner' <kaskastner@gmail.com>; 'fot@autox. team. net' <fot@autox=
.team.net>=20
Betreff: AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20




Mike,=20



my engine is really nothing special.=20

Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods=
 (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webe=
rs, that=E2=80=99s all.=20

My car is handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do very =
fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear.=20

There you have it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4 th b=
ecause I accidently overtook under yellow)=20

[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4 | https://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4 ]=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20






Von: Michael Deweerd < [ mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com | michaelndeweerd=
@gmail.com ] >=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54=20
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Cc: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com | kaskastner@gmail.com ] >;=
 fot@autox. team. net < [ mailto:fot@autox.team.net | fot@autox.team.net ] =
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Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! 175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not h=
ad my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that=
 number Of ponies.=20


We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D =
here in Canada that need squashing lol=20


Mike=20








On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20





Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight corner=
s.=20

But Triumphs do better from my experience.=20

My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster than =
a MG.=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20






Von: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com | kaskastner@gmail.com ] >=
=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11=20
An: MadMarx < [ mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com | tr4racing@googlemail.com =
] >=20
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20





I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars. EXCEPT=
 we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the engine (bigger) =
and they are much better than the M.G.'s. I also think the MG's are a lot l=
ighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a corner. I also think that=
 the MG engine is a lot better design to start with than thee TR-4 engine. =
Way back in years I built MG engines and they were excellent in using high =
revs and very reliable.=20


Never be beaten by equipment.=20








On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

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Very well driven.=20



Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?=20

Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)=20



What power do they make?=20

Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp=
 range.=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20




On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.te=
am.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

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Another Grattan video. Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB=20

and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4. 13 minutes of full-on racing.=
=20



[ https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c | https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c ]=20



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_DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"van mulders marce=
l" &lt;van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox=
.team.net&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"van mulders marcel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel@tel=
enet.be&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Zondag 13 september 2020 19:37:50<br><b>On=
derwerp: </b>Fwd: [Fot] Grattan race 2<br></div><div><br></div><div data-ma=
rker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style=3D"font-family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'h=
elvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000"><div></div><br><div><a=
 href=3D"https://youtube/pyhOVGBw3rg"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noo=
pener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/pyhOVGBw3rg</a>&nbsp;</div><div><a href=
=3D"https://youtube/ofR6plG_gwQ"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener=
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rrer">https://youtube/WDfCc1QlbKO</a></div><div><a href=3D"https://youtube/=
6f57pyz9iiQ" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">https:/=
/youtube/6f57pyz9iiQ</a>&nbsp;</div><div>This should be links to the Zandvo=
ort races (The Netherlands) of September the 11th and 12th.</div><div>My fr=
iend Karl Chandeck drove the car all the time. He was very quick : pole pos=
ition on a grid of 48 cars! But in the race he went off in the 1st lap. Tha=
t was a big disappointment of course. We repaired the car for the 2nd race.=
 He had to start from last position(45th). After 4 laps he was in 7th posit=
ion. Then some bad luck came in : the spring inside one of the Weber carbur=
ettors broke and hindered the trottle shaft : the trottle stayed partly ope=
n and it was impossible to drive the car like that. We did 2 attempts to fi=
x it. After the 1st pit stop, Karl could do some more laps and got the fast=
est overall laptime of the race with 2'00"490. Without the accident in the =
first race, he could have finished 1st or 2nd. It's a pity. Karl is a very =
safe driver, he very seldom has a spin.&nbsp;</div><div>Some of these video=
's will only be available tomorrow and if the links don't work, you simply =
can search in youtube with "Marcel Van Mulders".</div><div>Marcel.</div><hr=
 id=3D"zwchr"><div><b>Van: </b>"van mulders marcel" &lt;van.mulders.marcel@=
telenet.be&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"tr4racing" &lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<=
br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag=
 21 augustus 2020 09:24:13<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<br=
></div><br><div><div style=3D"font-family:'verdana' , 'arial' , 'helvetica'=
 , sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000"><div><a href=3D"https://youtu.b=
e/GP23e6fUosQ" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ</a><br></div><div>Some=
 of you may have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some weeks=
 ago : it was eating MG's with ease and also all the other cars except for =
a lightweight jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine. So =
2' 6" was good for 3rd position on the grid, only half a second slower than=
 the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was drivin=
g for me : not a prof racer but very fast anyway. Sadly the engine broke : =
holed engine block and big fire. I was always faster than the MG's but now =
being 68yrs old, I got slower and slower in the last couple of years withou=
t noticing it. I thought it was my car and I worked on it, but I remained i=
n the midfield instead of at the front&nbsp; where I used to be. My car get=
ting faster and me getting slower : the result has been a steady state. Wit=
h 68yrs one hasn't to be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But =
I hope it is not a definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again=
. We'll see if I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving comple=
tely. Next race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!</d=
iv><div>Marcel</div><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@aut=
ox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Michael Deweerd" &lt;michaelndeweerd@gmail.=
com&gt;, "tr4racing" &lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &=
lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Verzonden: </b>Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 1=
9:20:57<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<br></div><br><div><di=
v class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Forgot to mention, my engin=
e has 178 hp, but the torque is the secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.</p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1=
 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">V=
on:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> tr4racing@gmail.com &lt;tr4racing@gmail.co=
m&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18<br><b>An:</b> =
'Michael Deweerd' &lt;michaelndeweerd@gmail.com&gt;; 'tr4racing@googlemail.=
com' &lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Kas Kastner' &lt;kaska=
stner@gmail.com&gt;; 'fot@autox. team. net' &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><=
b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">Mike,</span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">my engine is really nothing special.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Stan=
dard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods (I =
remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webers, =
that=E2=80=99s all.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My car is handling great. Wit=
h good brake pads the standard brakes do very fine. Cast iron drums at the =
rear, Swaybars at front and rear.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There you have =
it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4<sup>th</sup> becaus=
e I accidently overtook under yellow)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"=
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener nor=
eferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=
=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4</a></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbs=
p;</p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0c=
m 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span=
 lang=3D"DE"> Michael Deweerd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.c=
om" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54<br><b>An:</b> <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer =
nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:kaskastner@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noop=
ener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;; fot@autox. team. net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nof=
ollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris. I want what you have=
 for breakfast!! &nbsp;175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not had my new engine on a=
 dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that number Of ponies.&nb=
sp;</p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">We should talk because there=
 are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in Canada that need squ=
ashing lol&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike&nbsp;</p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbs=
p;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chri=
s Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow no=
opener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;=
margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tin=
y advantage on tight corners.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">But Triumphs do bet=
ter from my experience.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My TR4 with 88mm bore is =
doing quite well and is on most cases faster than a MG.</p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ch=
ris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0c=
m"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D=
"DE"> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:tr4racing@googlemail.com" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow n=
oopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tr4racin=
g@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span>=
</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I se=
e the same thing here with&nbsp;good Mg's quicker than&nbsp;the TR-4 cars.&=
nbsp; EXCEPT&nbsp;we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared&nbsp;wit=
h the engine&nbsp;(bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s.&nbsp; =
I also think &nbsp;the MG's are&nbsp; a lot lighter&nbsp;in weight&nbsp;for=
 all seem very quick out of a corner. I also think that the MG engine is a =
lot better design to start with than thee TR-4 engine.&nbsp; Way back in ye=
ars I built MG engines&nbsp;and they were excellent in using high revs and =
very reliable.<br clear=3D"all"></p><div><div><p><strong><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:'calibri' , sans-serif;color:#000099">Never be beaten by equipment=
.</span></strong></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow no=
opener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><blockqu=
ote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5pt"><d=
iv><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Very well driven.</p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Wondering why these MGs and Porsches =
are that quick?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Por=
sches for Breakfast ;-)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">What power do they make?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here in Europe M=
Gs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp range.</p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers</p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow no=
opener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-l=
eft:solid #cccccc 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:=
5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin-bottom:12pt">Another Grattan video.&nbsp; Fantastic battle with Scott F=
ohrman in an MGB <br><br>and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.&nbsp;=
 13 minutes of full-on racing.<br><br><br><br><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/m=
3kUFUW_t9c" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferre=
r nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_=
t9c</a><br><br><br><br>Cheers, Tony Drews<br><br><br><br>__________________=
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