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Action cameras don=E2=80=99t have great dynamic range so as Duncan says, exp=
ose for outside. With the Hero 6 and later things got better. By using a Her=
o 7 Black or 8 Black and exposing for outside you will see quite a bit more d=
etail of what=E2=80=99s going on in the shadows on the inside than with earl=
ier cameras. Less expensive cameras save costs with cheap plastic lenses and=
sensors that don=E2=80=99t do well in challenging lighting conditions like w=
hat you are describing. -john
> On Jan 19, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I don=E2=80=99t think anyone replied yet about the question regarding whet=
her lighting will be off if the car is mounted inside the car. You can alte=
r the light metering from the =E2=80=9Caveraging=E2=80=9D setting that adjus=
ts for the entire field of view or you can select spot metering, which will b=
ias the exposure for what=E2=80=99s in the center of the field of view. In a=
n enclosed sedan I mount the camera over my shoulder and use the spot meteri=
ng setting, so what=E2=80=99s outside the car looks right, but if the interi=
or is dark it may be harder to see the gauges or what=E2=80=99s going on in t=
he footwell.
>=20
> I=E2=80=99ve usually mounted my ancient GoPro to the roll bar but I=E2=80=99=
m going to try one of the adhesive mounts that came with the clear plastic c=
ase =E2=80=94 but only because it=E2=80=99s inside the car, so if it falls i=
t won=E2=80=99t end up on the track. I recall entering the track access roa=
d from the grid and a suction-cup mounted GoPro on an MGB ahead of me fell o=
ff and landed right in the middle of the road. A friend asked if I wanted t=
o borrow his GoPro so I could get a rear view at CotA while my camera filmed=
the front. He had a large suction cup (at least 4=E2=80=9D across) but aft=
er he attached it to the inside of the side window behind my seat I heard it=
fall to the floor. I had used Rain-X (the type for use inside to prevent f=
ogging, which it really doesn=E2=80=99t do very well) and the mega suction c=
up refused to stick for more than a couple of minutes.
>=20
> Part of my routine is to click on the camera when we get the 3 minute warn=
ing, just before starting the engine up again. Remembering to click it off i=
s a different matter.
>=20
> Duncan
>> On Jan 19, 2020, 4:40 PM -0600, Stephen Jones via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
>, wrote:
>> Hi Scott.
>> =20
>> You might check out the pre-owned GoPro's on eBay. I recently bought a He=
ro 4, 3 camera bundle with water/dust cases, numerous mounting bits, 2 port b=
attery charger, eight batteries, USB cables, plus carry cases for $202 with f=
ree shipping. All I had to purchase were the SD cards. I recommend 64G which=
the H4's will accommodate. The only down side is that there is no rear view=
ing screen on the 4's. Minor inconvenience if you are on a limited budget. A=
s mentioned by John Linney, a Hero 5 is a better choice, but the 4's were to=
good of a deal too pass up. All cameras checked out fine.
>> =20
>> As Jason mentioned, hard wire the cameras to the ignition/power switch an=
d the camera will begin recording.
>> =20
>> For exposure, I just set it on "auto" with very good results.
>> =20
>> Per mounting. I prefer not to use the GoPro plastic mounting hardware. It=
is fine for "pedestrian" use, but in a race car not so reliable with all th=
e vibration and variable momentum changes. My suggestion is to fabricate a m=
ount from aluminum or other sturdier material. Additionally, a second "clamp=
" and mount point on the camera body (triangulate) helps keep the camera st=
eady from vibrations. If mounting outside the car, a safety wire is suggeste=
d, and may be required.=20
>> =20
>> Hope this was helpful.
>> =20
>> Stephen Jones
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> From: "Jason Sukey via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:42 AM
>> To: "Scott Janzen" <sjanzen@me.com>, "FOT list" <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] Go Pro Mounting
>> =20
>> Hi Scott,
>> I use one of the cheapo cameras in my gt6, mounted from the rear roll hoo=
p. It does a much better job catching me flail around behind the wheel tha=
n catching action out on track. I'm watching this email thread with interes=
t.
>> =20
>> One thing I did that makes life easier is to power the camera from a USB p=
ort wired to the car. No more worrying about charging the camera battery. T=
he camera powers up as soon as I flip the kill switch, all I have to do is p=
ress record on the remote.
>> https://youtu.be/yV0W_PxHy_Q
>> =20
>> Jason
>> =20
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 12:20 PM Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>> I=E2=80=99ve been thinking about buying one of these for a while, and Joh=
n=E2=80=99s email got me to look at the website.
>> GoPro is running a deal on the Hero 8 - marked down $50 to $350, ands off=
ering another $100 off with the trade in of a digital camera. They said they=
will take my wife=E2=80=99s no-longer-used 7 year old Panasonic point and s=
hoot, so I=E2=80=99m down to $250. Pretty good, though I assume this means t=
hey make these things for way less than $100.
>> =20
>> Here=E2=80=99s the question - Most of the footage I see is from open cars=
- my GT6 is closed, and does not have a roll cage hoop around the windshiel=
d. I=E2=80=99m assuming - maybe wrong - that if I mount it back on the roll=
bar, the video frame will include a lot of the inside of the tin top, and I=
=E2=80=99m also wondering if the dark/light contrast will make it difficult f=
or the device to determine what =E2=80=9Cexposure=E2=80=9D to shoot for.
>> =20
>> Dash mount?, windshield suction cup? rain gutter clamp?
>> =20
>> Anyone have experience with this with closed cars?
>> =20
>> Thanks,
>> Scott=20
>> =20
>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
>> =20
>> You inspired me to get off my butt and write up a blog post covering came=
ra choice. There will be more on the settings, mounts and creative options t=
o come. For now here it is on choosing a camera.
>> =20
>> https://www.classicmotorfilms.com/post/choosing-an-on-car-camera
>> =20
>> For those looking to upgrade - GoPro is running a $100 trade-in promotion=
on their top cameras - that will last you years. It brings the Hero 8 Black=
down to $300, or the Hero 7 Black down to $279.=20
>> =20
>> -john
>> =20
>>>=20
>>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Brian Schirano <bschirano1@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>> =20
>>> Well.... THAT was a helpful article and explanation, I take quite a bit o=
f comfort that it isn't me, it's THEM, them GoPro people and they have a rea=
son!
>>> =20
>>> Thanks John and others, the only thing I guess is I need to download a s=
titching app and away I (we) go
>>> =20
>>> Brian
>>> =20
>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:08 PM John Linney <john@linneyweb.com> wrote:=
>>> Older GoPros have a maximum file size of 4GB to retain compatibility wit=
h older computers being able to read the SD cards. It=E2=80=99s not such a b=
ad thing if your camera fails or the battery dies unexpectedly. At least you=
have some footage already recorded. This article goes into more detail... h=
ttps://www.google.com/amp/s/havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video=
-files/amp/
>>> =20
>>> I=E2=80=99ll be at Mid Ohio with a bunch of GoPros. Generally speaking, y=
ou should think about upgrading if your GoPro is prior to a Hero 5 Black. Yo=
u will be stunned with the improvement in image quality, stabilization and e=
ven audio quality.=20
>>> =20
>>> I=E2=80=99ll be putting together an edit of the race. Last years edit us=
ed whatever footage I could get so you will see a vast disparity in quality.=
The TR250K had the most up to date GoPros and you can really tell.=20
>>> =20
>>> The race... https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>>> TR250K... https://youtu.be/UzLcAUqjZ1A (a great example of GoPro audio i=
n the racing shots if you have a mic shielded from the wind).=20
>>> =20
>>> I=E2=80=99ll be putting together recommendations on which camera(s) will=
work best. I=E2=80=99m also planning on evaluating some 360 degree cameras w=
hich will make for some truly awesome creative possibilities, (just a pain t=
o edit).=20
>>> =20
>>> -john
>>> =20
>>> John Linney
>>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>>> 408 887 8105
>>> =20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:03 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>>>> =20
>>>> ?
>>>> Brian, my Go Pro hero-2 splits up a session into roughly 2 MB files. I b=
elieve it related to file system limits. I use some free software, RaceRende=
r, http://racerender.com/RR3/Download.html to join and edit them into one=
movie. The free version does all of that but has their logo embedded in the=
final picture. I bought a lifetime licence for something like $50 that allo=
ws you to remove the logo and do other stuff, like integrate multiple camera=
s and data from their smart phone app.
>>>> =20
>>>> I'm guessing the free Windows Movie Maker program can be used to join t=
hem as well, I just find it's slower and the output file is large.
>>>> A short clip using the software to integrate front and rear cameras htt=
ps://youtu.be/fpYS2zc6-xk
>>>> =20
>>>> mike h
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:20 AM Brian Schirano via Fot <fot@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
>>>> Yes... The Hero cards are very cool
>>>> =20
>>>> Hmmmm.... an Expert with a GoPro Shawn? I need some help (and I've hear=
d others have the same problem). I have a Hero Black and..... when I remembe=
r to turn it ON, somewhere mid race, sometimes twice, it stops then restarts=
. I end up with multiple files from a 20 or so minute session. I've fiddled=
with settings but really don't know what I'm doing, just what I can learn f=
rom the manual.
>>>> =20
>>>> Suggestions?
>>>> =20
>>>> See you there
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Brian
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:11 PM Shawn Frank via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
>>>> I won't touch that one... :-)
>>>> =20
>>>> I am really wanting to get a full set of cards signed by everyone if I c=
ould.=20
>>>> =20
>>>> May be difficult this year as I'm expecting a full crew of 3 of us agai=
n, maybe more and I suspect some of you have seen me at full sprint most of t=
he weekend.=20
>>>> =20
>>>> I'll have my 2 Nikons blazing away and 3 GoPros that may need a ride...=
we'll do some Facebook Live video, race updates on North American Triumphs =
Facebook page, VTR's page and of course The Vintage Triumph Magazine coverag=
e. I'm working on expanding to other publications. More on that soon.=20
>>>> =20
>>>> This is getting exciting.
>>>> =20
>>>> See you all there!!!
>>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Action cameras don=E2=80=99t have great dyn=
amic range so as Duncan says, expose for outside. With the Hero 6 and later t=
hings got better. By using a Hero 7 Black or 8 Black and exposing for outsid=
e you will see quite a bit more detail of what=E2=80=99s going on in the sha=
dows on the inside than with earlier cameras. Less expensive cameras save co=
sts with cheap plastic lenses and sensors that don=E2=80=99t do well in chal=
lenging lighting conditions like what you are describing. -john<div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 19, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Duncan Charlt=
on via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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<div dir=3D"auto">I don=E2=80=99t think anyone replied yet about the questio=
n regarding whether lighting will be off if the car is mounted inside the ca=
r. You can alter the light metering from the =E2=80=9Caveraging=E2=80=9D=
setting that adjusts for the entire field of view or you can select spot me=
tering, which will bias the exposure for what=E2=80=99s in the center of the=
field of view. In an enclosed sedan I mount the camera over my should=
er and use the spot metering setting, so what=E2=80=99s outside the car look=
s right, but if the interior is dark it may be harder to see the gauges or w=
hat=E2=80=99s going on in the footwell.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99ve usually mounted my ancient GoPro to the roll b=
ar but I=E2=80=99m going to try one of the adhesive mounts that came with th=
e clear plastic case =E2=80=94 but only because it=E2=80=99s inside the car,=
so if it falls it won=E2=80=99t end up on the track. I recall enterin=
g the track access road from the grid and a suction-cup mounted GoPro on an M=
GB ahead of me fell off and landed right in the middle of the road. A f=
riend asked if I wanted to borrow his GoPro so I could get a rear view at Co=
tA while my camera filmed the front. He had a large suction cup (at le=
ast 4=E2=80=9D across) but after he attached it to the inside of the side wi=
ndow behind my seat I heard it fall to the floor. I had used Rain-X (t=
he type for use inside to prevent fogging, which it really doesn=E2=80=99t d=
o very well) and the mega suction cup refused to stick for more than a coupl=
e of minutes.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Part of my routine is to click on the camera when we get t=
he 3 minute warning, just before starting the engine up again. Remembe=
ring to click it off is a different matter.</div>
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<div class=3D"matchFont">Duncan</div>
</div>
<div name=3D"messageReplySection">On Jan 19, 2020, 4:40 PM -0600, Stephen Jo=
nes via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>, wrote:<br>
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dding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #1abc9c;"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px"></span>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px">Hi Scott.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px">You might check out the pre-owned GoPro's on eBay. I recently bought a&n=
bsp;Hero 4, 3 camera bundle with water/dust cases, numerous mounting bits, 2=
port battery charger, eight batteries, USB cables, plus carry cases fo=
r $202 with free shipping. All I had to purchase were the SD cards. I r=
ecommend 64G which the H4's will accommodate. The only down side is tha=
t there is no rear viewing screen on the 4's. Minor inconvenience if you are=
on a limited budget. As mentioned by John Linney, a Hero 5 is a b=
etter choice, but the 4's were to good of a deal too pass up. All camer=
as checked out fine.</span></div>
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px"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px">As Jason mentioned, hard wire the cameras to the ignition/power switch a=
nd the camera will begin recording.</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px">For exposure, I just set it on "auto" with very good results.</span></di=
v>
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px"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px">Per mounting. I prefer not to use the GoPro plastic mounting hardwa=
re. It is fine for "pedestrian" use, but in a race car not so reliable with&=
nbsp;all the vibration and variable momentum changes. My suggestion is t=
o fabricate a mount from aluminum or other sturdier material. Additionally, a=
second "clamp" and mount point on the camera body (triangulate) =
helps keep the camera steady from vibrations. If mounting outside the car, a=
safety wire is suggested, and may be required. </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px"> </span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12=
px">Hope this was helpful.</span></div>
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px"> </span></div>
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b>From</b>: "Jason Sukey via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Sent</b>: Sunday, January 19, 2020 3:42 AM<br>
<b>To</b>: "Scott Janzen" <sjanzen@me.com>, "FOT list" <fot@autox.t=
eam.net><br>
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [Fot] Go Pro Mounting</span></span>
<div> </div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Scott,
<div dir=3D"auto">I use one of the cheapo cameras in my gt6, mounted from th=
e rear roll hoop. It does a much better job catching me flail ar=
ound behind the wheel than catching action out on track. I'm watching t=
his email thread with interest.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"> </div>
<div dir=3D"auto">One thing I did that makes life easier is to power the cam=
era from a USB port wired to the car. No more worrying about charging t=
he camera battery. The camera powers up as soon as I flip the kill swi=
tch, all I have to do is press record on the remote.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/yV0W_PxHy_Q";>https://youtu.be/=
yV0W_PxHy_Q</a></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"> </div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 12:20 PM Scott J=
anzen via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</=
a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote spark_quote" style=3D"margin: 5px 5px; padd=
ing-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #e67e22;">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">I=E2=80=99v=
e been thinking about buying one of these for a while, and John=E2=80=99s em=
ail got me to look at the website.
<div>GoPro is running a deal on the Hero 8 - marked down $50 to $350, ands o=
ffering another $100 off with the trade in of a digital camera. They said th=
ey will take my wife=E2=80=99s no-longer-used 7 year old Panasonic point and=
shoot, so I=E2=80=99m down to $250. Pretty good, though I assume this=
means they make these things for way less than $100.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Here=E2=80=99s the question - Most of the footage I see is from open ca=
rs - my GT6 is closed, and does not have a roll cage hoop around the windshi=
eld. I=E2=80=99m assuming - maybe wrong - that if I mount it back on t=
he roll bar, the video frame will include a lot of the inside of the tin top=
, and I=E2=80=99m also wondering if the dark/light contrast will make it dif=
ficult for the device to determine what =E2=80=9Cexposure=E2=80=9D to shoot f=
or.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Dash mount?, windshield suction cup? rain gutter clamp?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Anyone have experience with this with closed cars?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Scott </div>
<div>
<div>
<div>On Jan 16, 2020, at 5:44 PM, John Linney via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:=
fot@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net<=
/a>> wrote:</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">You inspire=
d me to get off my butt and write up a blog post covering camera choice. The=
re will be more on the settings, mounts and creative options to come. For no=
w here it is on choosing a camera.
<div> </div>
<div><a href=3D"https://www.classicmotorfilms.com/post/choosing-an-on-car-ca=
mera" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.classicmotorfilms.com=
/post/choosing-an-on-car-camera</a></div>
<div> </div>
<div>For those looking to upgrade - GoPro is running a $100 trade-in promoti=
on on their top cameras - that will last you years. It brings the Hero 8 Bla=
ck down to $300, or the Hero 7 Black down to $279. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>-john
<div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"spark_quote" style=3D"margin: 5px 5px; pa=
dding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #3498db;">
<div>On Jan 16, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Brian Schirano <<a href=3D"mailto:bschi=
rano1@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bschirano1@gmail.com</=
a>> wrote:</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:no=
rmal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spac=
ing:0px;text-decoration:none">Well.... THAT was a helpful article and explan=
ation, I take quite a bit of comfort that it isn't me, it's THEM, them GoPro=
people and they have a reason!
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks John and others, the only thing I guess is I need to download a s=
titching app and away I (we) go</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Brian</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;fon=
t-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:no=
rmal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal=
;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:08 PM John L=
inney <<a href=3D"mailto:john@linneyweb.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">john@linneyweb.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote spark_quote" style=3D"margin: 5px 5px; padd=
ing-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #d35400;">
<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Older GoPros have a maximum file size of 4GB to retain comp=
atibility with older computers being able to read the SD cards. It=E2=80=99s=
not such a bad thing if your camera fails or the battery dies unexpectedly.=
At least you have some footage already recorded. This article goes into mor=
e detail... <a href=3D"https://www.google.com/amp/s/havecamerawilltrav=
el.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/amp/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://www.google.com/amp/s/havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-=
video-files/amp/</a></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99ll be at Mid Ohio with a bunch of GoPros. General=
ly speaking, you should think about upgrading if your GoPro is prior to a He=
ro 5 Black. You will be stunned with the improvement in image quality, stabi=
lization and even audio quality. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99ll be putting together an edit of the race. Last y=
ears edit used whatever footage I could get so you will see a vast disparity=
in quality. The TR250K had the most up to date GoPros and you can really te=
ll. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The race... <a href=3D"https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI"; r=
el=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI</a></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">TR250K... <a href=3D"https://youtu.be/UzLcAUqjZ1A"; rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/UzLcAUqjZ1A</a> (a g=
reat example of GoPro audio in the racing shots if you have a mic shielded f=
rom the wind). </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99ll be putting together recommendations on which c=
amera(s) will work best. I=E2=80=99m also planning on evaluating some 360 de=
gree cameras which will make for some truly awesome creative possibilities, (=
just a pain to edit). </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">-john</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">John Linney</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://classicmotorfilms.com/"; rel=3D"noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">https://classicmotorfilms.com</a></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">408 887 8105</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"spark_quote" style=3D"margin: 5px 5px; pa=
dding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #34495e;">On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:03=
AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
</blockquote>
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dding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #34495e;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">?
<div dir=3D"ltr">Brian, my Go Pro hero-2 splits up a session into roughly&nb=
sp;2 MB files. I believe it related to file system limits. I use some free s=
oftware, RaceRender, <a href=3D"http://racerender.com/RR3/Downloa=
d.html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://racerender.com/RR3/Downl=
oad.html</a> to join and edit them into one movie. The free=
version does all of that but has their logo embedded in the final picture. I=
bought a lifetime licence for something like $50 that allows you to remove t=
he logo and do other stuff, like integrate multiple cameras and data from th=
eir smart phone app.
<div> </div>
<div>I'm guessing the free Windows Movie Maker program can be used to join t=
hem as well, I just find it's slower and the output file is large.</div>
<div>A short clip using the software to integrate front and rear cameras&nbs=
p;<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/fpYS2zc6-xk"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://youtu.be/fpYS2zc6-xk</a></div>
<div> </div>
<div>mike h</div>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:20 AM Brian S=
chirano via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer"=
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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ing-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #2ecc71;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes... The Hero cards are very cool
<div> </div>
<div>Hmmmm.... an Expert with a GoPro Shawn? I need some help (and I've hear=
d others have the same problem). I have a Hero Black and..... when I remembe=
r to turn it ON, somewhere mid race, sometimes twice, it stops then restarts=
. I end up with multiple files from a 20 or so minute session. I've fi=
ddled with settings but really don't know what I'm doing, just what I can le=
arn from the manual.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Suggestions?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>See you there</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Brian</div>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 9:11 PM Shawn =
Frank via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote spark_quote" style=3D"margin: 5px 5px; padd=
ing-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #9b59b6;">I won't touch that one... :=
-)
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_15791401282=
06"> </div>
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_15791401285=
49">I am really wanting to get a full set of cards signed by everyone if I c=
ould. </div>
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_15791404872=
76"> </div>
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_15791404874=
95">May be difficult this year as I'm expecting a full crew of 3 of us again=
, maybe more and I suspect some of you have seen me at full sprint most of t=
he weekend. </div>
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_15791405015=
44"> </div>
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_15791405018=
33">I'll have my 2 Nikons blazing away and 3 GoPros that may need a ride... w=
e'll do some Facebook Live video, race updates on North American Triumphs Fa=
cebook page, VTR's page and of course The Vintage Triumph Magazine coverage.=
I'm working on expanding to other publications. More on that soon. </d=
iv>
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_15791405997=
02"> </div>
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825yMail_cursorElementTracker_15791405999=
64">This is getting exciting.</div>
<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
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<div id=3D"m_-3947416733709046633gmail-m_2769966863566850977gmail-m_-1803390=
13037729222gmail-m_3893229166962873825ymail_android_signature">Shawn Frank<b=
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