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After cleaning out a filter that survived a bad bearing in my 1147 Spit
(Back in the Day) and re-using it (It was after the filter), the next
engine lasted a whole 22 minutes, about 3 sessions short of a race weekend,
before the very same failure occurred. I've never re-used a cooler since.
But I do have a stack of 3 or 4 for anyone who wants one. :)
I miss that car. But not the grenades that it kept under the hood.
On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:20 PM Rocky Entriken via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> Any bad stuff in the oil lines is gonna originate in the engine, so make
> the filter the first stop (and usually the shortest line). Then the coole=
r.
> And what nobody else mentioned, a check valve after the cooler before it
> goes back to the engine (keeps oil from flowing backwards into cooler, sa=
y
> on start-up.) My Accusump is plumbed into a Tee that=E2=80=99s just befor=
e the
> engine inlet =E2=80=93 what goes to the Accusump is filtered and cooled o=
il, and
> what comes from the Accusump goes only to the engine because the check
> valve prevents it going the other way.
>
> And yeah, coolers are cheap. If I=E2=80=99m concerned I=E2=80=99ll flush =
out the lines
> (self-service car wash does the trick, use high-pressure rinse), but buy =
a
> new cooler.
>
> --Rocky
> *From:* barry rosenberg via Fot
> *Sent:* Monday, December 3, 2018 7:27 AM
> *To:* fubog1 ; Phil Gott
> *Cc:* fot@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?
>
> Yes, filter first. But what I have run into on some customers cars is the
> way the cooler lines run. Most coolers are mounted with the fittings on
> top. This does not permit the cooler to drain and when you change your oi=
l,
> the cooler retains the old oil. You have to remove the cooler and at leas=
t
> one line to drain the old oil out. Try to set your cooler a little high
> with the fitting on the bottom so it can self drain. Of course, this mean=
s
> you must pre-lube the engine before startup. I also set my cooler behind
> the radiator and not in front. NASCAR experts say that the closer the oil
> and water temp are to each other, the better.
>
>
> Barry
>
> On Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:02:15 AM EST, Phil Gott via Fot <
> fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Filter first. Keeps the crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to clean=
.
> Good thought By Glen to replace the cooker on engine refreshing.
> With a cooler in the system, also a good idea to prelube the engine with
> an Accusump upon cold start. Oil cooler lines are long and may drain upon
> standing a while.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:02 AM, fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I typically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the engine before the
> cooler, and a second filter after the cooler.
> It may be overkill but it eliminates the possibility of oil cooler trash
> getting in the engine.
> I also replace the cooler @ every engine freshen-up.
> Glen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bud Rolofson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> -To: FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 2:51 am
> Subject: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?
>
> Listerati,
>
> For those of you running a remote oil cooler and remote oil filter do you
> run the hose coming OUT of the engine into the cooler first or the filter
> first? Just wanted to see how and why (if there=E2=80=99s a reason) most =
run their
> lines.
>
> Thanks
> Bud
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>After cleaning out a filter that survived a bad beari=
ng in my 1147 Spit (Back in the Day) and re-using it (It was after the filt=
er), the next engine lasted a whole 22 minutes, about 3 sessions short of a=
race weekend, before the very same failure occurred. I've never re-use=
d a cooler since. <br></div><div><br></div><div>But I do have a stack of 3 =
or 4 for anyone who wants one. :)</div><div><br></div><div>I miss that car.=
But not the grenades that it kept under the hood.</div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr">On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:20 PM Rocky Entriken via Fot <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri';COLOR:#000000">
<div>Any bad stuff in the oil lines is gonna originate in the engine, so ma=
ke=20
the filter the first stop (and usually the shortest line). Then the cooler.=
And=20
what nobody else mentioned, a check valve after the cooler before it goes b=
ack=20
to the engine (keeps oil from flowing backwards into cooler, say on start-u=
p.)=20
My Accusump is plumbed into a Tee that=E2=80=99s just before the engine inl=
et =E2=80=93 what=20
goes to the Accusump is filtered and cooled oil, and what comes from the=20
Accusump goes only to the engine because the check valve prevents it going =
the=20
other way.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>And yeah, coolers are cheap. If I=E2=80=99m concerned I=E2=80=99ll flu=
sh out the lines=20
(self-service car wash does the trick, use high-pressure rinse), but buy a =
new=20
cooler.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>--Rocky</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibr=
i";FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">=
</div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"fot@autox.team.net">barry=20
rosenberg via Fot</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 3, 2018 7:27 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"fubog1@aol.com">fubog1</a> ; <a title=3D"vfraci=
ng@aol.com">Phil Gott</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a> </di=
v>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?</div></div><=
/div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibr=
i";FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div class=3D"m_8395565733904378271ydpb35c2998yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"FO=
NT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica neue,helvetica,arial,sans-serif">
<div></div>
<div>Yes, filter first. But what I have run into on some customers cars is =
the=20
way the cooler lines run. Most coolers are mounted with the fittings on top=
.=20
This does not permit the cooler to drain and when you change your oil, the=
=20
cooler retains the old oil. You have to remove the cooler and at least one =
line=20
to drain the old oil out. Try to set your cooler a little high with the fit=
ting=20
on the bottom so it can self drain. Of course, this means you must pre-lube=
the=20
engine before startup. I also set my cooler behind the radiator and not in=
=20
front. NASCAR experts say that the closer the oil and water temp are to eac=
h=20
other, the better. </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Barry</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div id=3D"m_8395565733904378271ydp77e30394yahoo_quoted_4365142166" class=
=3D"m_8395565733904378271ydp77e30394yahoo_quoted">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:'Helvetica Neue',helvetica=
,arial,sans-serif;COLOR:#26282a">
<div>On Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:02:15 AM EST, Phil Gott via Fot=20
<<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.=
net</a>> wrote: </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_8395565733904378271ydp77e30394yiv5084618700">
<div>Filter first. Keeps the crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to cl=
ean.=20
Good thought By Glen to replace the cooker on engine refreshing.=C2=A0=20
<div>With a cooler in the system, also a good idea to prelube the engine wi=
th an=20
Accusump upon cold start. Oil cooler lines are long and may drain upon stan=
ding=20
a while.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div id=3D"m_8395565733904378271ydp77e30394yiv5084618700AppleMailSignature"=
dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my=20
iPhone</div>
<div id=3D"m_8395565733904378271ydp77e30394yiv5084618700yqt71373" class=3D"=
m_8395565733904378271ydp77e30394yiv5084618700yqt8018011704">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:02 AM, fubog1 via =
Fot <<a shape=3D"rect" rel=3D"nofollow">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial, Helvetic=
a, sans-serif"></font>
<div><font size=3D"2">I typically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the e=
ngine=20
before the cooler, and a second filter after the cooler.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">It may be overkill but it eliminates the possibilit=
y of oil=20
cooler trash getting in the engine.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">I also replace the cooler @ every engine=20
freshen-up.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Glen<br clear=3D"none"></font></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica;COLOR:black">---=
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Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Bud Rolofson via Fot <<a shape=3D=
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<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:arial,helvetica;COLOR:black"><fo=
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tox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018=20
2:51 am<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?<=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Listerati,<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">For those of you running a remote oil cooler and remote =
oil=20
filter do you run the hose coming OUT of the engine into the cooler first=
or=20
the filter first? Just wanted to see how and why (if there=E2=80=99s a re=
ason) most=20
run their lines.<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Bud<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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