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I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of the suspicion surrounding this. Me=
mbers have already talked to SVRA and Rick, an SVRA staff member, has confir=
med that information to the list. Further, several have already registered a=
nd confirmed that their entry fee was, in fact, $100. If there are Triumph r=
acers out there that aren=E2=80=99t on FOT they will undoubtably see SVRA 20=
19 schedule in magazines in the upcoming months and all the info was on thei=
r website the day it was announced. SVRA is trying this with a different ma=
rque at every race this year. As someone that has organized events in the p=
ast I think it is a cool strategy. Are they doing it to increase car counts?=
Of course - why else would you offer any incentive for any race your holdi=
ng? My guess is that they are looking at these feature discounts as a loss l=
eader hoping to pick up repeat entries in the future if they can put on a go=
od event and make it an experience that a driver wants to repeat. Nothing n=
efarious about that. =20
For what it=E2=80=99s worth they had another promotion tying a free test day=
($325 value for most of their events) to an earlybird entry for 2019. I di=
d it. They added a test day for free. Just as advertised. =20
In summation - if you were at all considering running Watkins Glen they have=
offered an awesome experience to do so. If you weren=E2=80=99t that=E2=80=99=
s cool too. I have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next year will be the f=
irst time I have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m just a guy that loves=
vintage racing and loves a good deal. There are shortages of many things i=
n this world. Good news and discounts on anything race-related are certainl=
y among them. Be willing to accept them on the rare occasion that they come=
along :)
Just my $.02
Brian
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> Date: November 1, 2018 at 10:47:33 AM CDT
> Cc: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" <fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?
> Reply-To: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
>=20
> I suggest a racer take the lead and get SVRA to publish to FOT the complet=
e deal, if any hidden costs, committed track time and time of day for all Tr=
iumph racers and any other salient information. Also suggest that they exten=
d the invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who have never raced a SVR=
A event or never a WG event who would like to do so.
> =20
> Since Triumph is the featured marque in 2019 for the in town events SVRA m=
ust want to piggy back on that and that makes sense.
> =20
> Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99m not a racer I=
=E2=80=99ll be doing WG in September. Triumphs have always been very visible=
in the downtown event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice they are recogni=
zing that. I know many of the WPTA faithful will be too.
> =20
> JVV
> =20
> From: John Styduhar via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:50 AM
> To: william r tobin
> Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
> Subject: Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?
> =20
> All we need is Bob Tullius as the Grand Marshall.
> =20
> =20
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:
>> Hi Gang, i'm planning on attending; it's a fun weekend, although you can g=
et more track time at a some of the smaller races. Like VRG events.
>>=20
>> However, if you go to this race, be sure to sign up for the Friday evenin=
g re-enactment. It's a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might encounter so=
me famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I manned his booksell=
ing tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But I digress!
>>=20
>> I did have a nice chat with Boris Said last September. Interesting guy.
>>=20
>> You probably won't be sorry if you go.
>>=20
>> Cheers, Bill
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On 10/31/2018 9:11 AM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote:
>>> I received this from SVRA today. They're not my normal race group but th=
is seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?
>>> =20
>>> mike h
>>> =20
>>> Please accept this personal invitation to bring your
>>> 1963 Triumph Spitfire
>>> to the Triumph Reunion at our 2019 US Vintage Grand Prix
>>> which includes FREE ENTRY*
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>> Dear Mike Harmuth,
>>> I am excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being launche=
d for SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it has been my g=
oal to fund SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not just by t=
he entry fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step with th=
e launch of our Reunion Program.
>>> At each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or Featured G=
roup. All hosted participants will receive special event entitlements includ=
ing, =E2=80=9CFree Entry=E2=80=9D into the Sprint race. Each hosted entrant w=
ill run two sessions on Friday and Saturday with their normal SVRA run group=
and a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and Fan Walk. Each feature entrant will=
receive a Reunion Group photo and Hero Cards to pass out to kids so they ca=
n collect them and learn about your car. The Feature Marque/Group will also b=
e highlighted in the event program and on the poster. We really are serious a=
bout you being the featured show for our spectators.
>>> For the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. Please=
click the link below to enter the race. You will be responsible for the opt=
ional activities like; the test day, enduro and dinner tickets. The Sprint r=
ace will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar check to each entrant th=
at takes the green flag in Sunday's Triumph Reunion race. This is a first st=
ep at being able to offer free entry to our featured groups. It's my hope th=
at someday, SVRA will be able to offer free entry to several race groups on t=
he same weekend.
>>>=20
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m not sure I understand all of th=
e suspicion surrounding this. Members have already talked to SVRA and R=
ick, an SVRA staff member, has confirmed that information to the list.  =
;Further, several have already registered and confirmed that their entry fee=
was, in fact, $100. If there are Triumph racers out there that aren=E2=
=80=99t on FOT they will undoubtably see SVRA 2019 schedule in magazines in t=
he upcoming months and all the info was on their website the day it was anno=
unced. SVRA is trying this with a different marque at every race this y=
ear. As someone that has organized events in the past I think it is a c=
ool strategy. Are they doing it to increase car counts? Of course - wh=
y else would you offer any incentive for any race your holding? My gue=
ss is that they are looking at these feature discounts as a loss leader hopi=
ng to pick up repeat entries in the future if they can put on a good event a=
nd make it an experience that a driver wants to repeat. Nothing nefari=
ous about that. <div><br></div><div>For what it=E2=80=99s worth t=
hey had another promotion tying a free test day ($325 value for most of thei=
r events) to an earlybird entry for 2019. I did it. They added a=
test day for free. Just as advertised. </div><div><br></div><di=
v>In summation - if you were at all considering running Watkins Glen they ha=
ve offered an awesome experience to do so. If you weren=E2=80=99t that=
=E2=80=99s cool too. I have no affiliation to SVRA - in fact next year=
will be the first time I have run with them since 2015. I=E2=80=99m just a g=
uy that loves vintage racing and loves a good deal. There are shortage=
s of many things in this world. Good news and discounts on anything ra=
ce-related are certainly among them. Be willing to accept them on the r=
are occasion that they come along :)</div><div><br></div><div>Just my $.02</=
div><div><br></div><div>Brian<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent fro=
m my iPhone</div><div><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div><b>From:</b> Jerry Van Vlack via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto=
:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Date:</b> November 1, 2=
018 at 10:47:33 AM CDT<br><b>Cc:</b> "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</=
b> <b>Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the Glen?</b><br><b>Repl=
y-To:</b> Jerry Van Vlack <<a href=3D"mailto:jerryvv@roadrunner.com">jerr=
yvv@roadrunner.com</a>><br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">
<div>I suggest a racer take the lead and get SVRA to publish to FOT the comp=
lete=20
deal, if any hidden costs, committed track time and time of day for all Triu=
mph=20
racers and any other salient information. Also suggest that they extend the=20=
invite to all FOT racers, there may be some who have never raced a SVRA even=
t or=20
never a WG event who would like to do so. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Since Triumph is the featured marque in 2019 for the in town events SVR=
A=20
must want to piggy back on that and that makes sense.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Since Triumph is the downtown feature marque and I=E2=80=99m not a race=
r I=E2=80=99ll be=20
doing WG in September. Triumphs have always been very visible in the downtow=
n=20
event year over year and it=E2=80=99s nice they are recognizing that. I know=
many of the=20
WPTA faithful will be too.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>JVV </div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Ca=
libri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
<div style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<div> </div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<div style=3D"font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"fot@autox.team.net=
">John=20
Styduhar via Fot</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 1, 2018 9:50 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"william.tobin31@verizon.net">william r tobin</a>=
</div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"fot@autox.team.net">Triumph 'Friends of Triumph<=
/a>=20
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] free entry into the Triumph race at the=20
Glen?</div></div></div>
<div> </div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Ca=
libri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLA=
Y: inline">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small">All we need is Bob T=
ullius as=20
the Grand Marshall.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small"> </div></div>
<div> </div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 3:13 AM Bill Tobin via Fot=20
<<a>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; BORDER-LEFT: #=
ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex">
<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
<p>Hi Gang, i'm planning on attending; it's a fun weekend, although you ca=
n=20
get more track time at a some of the smaller races. Like VRG events.=
</p>
<p>However, if you go to this race, be sure to sign up for the Friday even=
ing=20
re-enactment. It's a blast. And it is Watkins Glen. You might encounter so=
me=20
famous, or semi-famous, folks there. Like B S Levy. I manned his bookselli=
ng=20
tent for a few minutes while he hit the portajohn. But I digress!</p>
<p>I did have a nice chat with Boris Said last September. Interesting guy.=
</p>
<p>You probably won't be sorry if you go.<br></p>
<p>Cheers, Bill<br></p><br>
<div class=3D"m_7440610348066735364moz-cite-prefix">On 10/31/2018 9:11 AM,=
Mike=20
Harmuth via Fot wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>I received this from SVRA today. They're not my normal race group b=
ut=20
this seems like a good deal. Anyone else going?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>mike h<br></div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 20px">
<div>
<p lang=3D"x-size-18" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-18" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 17px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 20px; MARGIN-TOP: 0=
px; TEXT-ALIGN: center; LINE-HEIGHT: 26px"><span style=3D"COLOR: rgb(16,96,1=
76)">Please accept this personal invitation to=20
bring your</span><br><strong><span style=3D"COLOR: rgb(48,48,48)">1963 T=
riumph=20
Spitfire</span></strong><br><span style=3D"COLOR: rgb(16,96,176)">to the=
=20
Triumph Reunion at our 2019 US Vintage Grand Prix<br>which includes FREE=
=20
ENTRY*</span></p></div></div>
<div style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 20px">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 1px; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px"> </div></div>
<div style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 24px; MARGIN-LEFT: 20px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 20px=
">
<div>
<p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: s=
ans-serif; MARGIN-TOP: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 21px"><span class=3D"m_744061034806=
6735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">Dear=20
Mike Harmuth,</span></p>
<p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: s=
ans-serif; MARGIN-TOP: 20px; LINE-HEIGHT: 21px"><span class=3D"m_74406103480=
66735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">I am=20
excited to tell you about a brand new program that is being launched for=
=20
SVRA=E2=80=99s 2019 race season. Since acquiring SVRA, it has been my go=
al to fund=20
SVRA through sponsorships and engaging spectators, not just by the entry=
=20
fees paid by our racers. This year we are taking a big step with the lau=
nch=20
of our Reunion Program.</span></p>
<p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: s=
ans-serif; MARGIN-TOP: 20px; LINE-HEIGHT: 21px"><span class=3D"m_74406103480=
66735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">At=20
each of our SVRA events, we will host a Featured Marque or Featured Grou=
p.=20
All hosted participants will receive special event entitlements includin=
g,=20
=E2=80=9C<strong>Free Entry</strong>=E2=80=9D into the Sprint race. Each=
hosted entrant will=20
run two sessions on Friday and Saturday with their normal SVRA run group=
and=20
a Sunday 30 minute Reunion Race and Fan Walk. Each feature entrant will=20=
receive a Reunion Group photo and Hero Cards to pass out to kids so they=
can=20
collect them and learn about your car. The Feature Marque/Group will als=
o be=20
highlighted in the event program and on the poster. We really are seriou=
s=20
about you being the featured show for our spectators.</span></p>
<p lang=3D"x-size-14" class=3D"m_7440610348066735364gmail-m_740484873671=
9870248size-14" style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-FAMILY: s=
ans-serif; MARGIN-TOP: 20px; LINE-HEIGHT: 21px"><span class=3D"m_74406103480=
66735364gmail-m_7404848736719870248font-sans-serif">For=20
the US Vintage Grand Prix, we are hosting an Triumph Reunion. Please cli=
ck=20
the link below to enter the race. You will be responsible for the option=
al=20
activities like; the test day, enduro and dinner tickets. The Sprint rac=
e=20
will cost $100 but we will issue a $100* dollar check to each entrant th=
at=20
takes the green flag in Sunday's Triumph Reunion race. This is a first s=
tep=20
at being able to offer free entry to our featured groups. It's my hope t=
hat=20
someday, SVRA will be able to offer free entry to several race groups on=
the=20
same weekend.</span></p></div></div></div></div><br>
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