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You also can=E2=80=99t read a plug without a clean chop, which few =
people ever bother with or have any idea how to do. It=E2=80=99s a lot =
more important than starting with a clean plug. I don=E2=80=99t doubt =
that there=E2=80=99s a difference in horsepower in having a plug so hot =
that its blistering or pre-igniting, or so cold that it=E2=80=99s =
fouling. But there=E2=80=99s nothing you can learn on a dyno about what =
plug to use. If you=E2=80=99re smart about it, you run a very cold plug =
on a dyno. And you mostly read plugs to get jetting right, not to =
choose the heat range. I consider myself to be pretty good at reading =
plugs, I pestered Bobby Strahlman long enough and hard enough to learn =
most of what he was willing to tell me. It=E2=80=99s a bigger deal for =
motorcycles, in the same way that jetting carbs is a bigger deal. If =
you=E2=80=99ve only got one or two cylinders, and you=E2=80=99ve only =
got 30 horsepower, you better get them all.=20
On Apr 23, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> The manner of having the right heat range can mean more than a little =
bit of power. It does mater. Most plugs I look at for the guys are =
generally to hot for the circumstances. Learn about this stuff. Clean =
the plugs, keep a little sand blast cleaner handy and never run a =
session without a few ( one or two CLEAN) plugs in the engine. You =
cannot read a dirty plug from running a session before. Don't be LAZY.
>=20
> Never be beaten by equipment.
>=20
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> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Bill Babcock via Fot =
> Why would you want to play with heat range on a dyno? There=E2=80=99s =
no horsepower difference. The only function of heat range is to have the =
porcelain at the right temperature to burn off deposits and not overheat =
to the point that the plug electrode melts or the porcelain blisters. Or =
at an extreme that the spark plug starts acting like a glow plug. Some =
tracks that are very tight or that have elevation changes might dictate =
a change to a hotter plug, or one with long open straights might warrant =
a colder one, but once you=E2=80=99re in the ballpark you shouldn=E2=80=99=
t have to do much.=20
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>> On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Robert M. Lang via Fot =
>>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> I've been using Accel 114's for the last ten or 15 years, they seem =
to work fine. I have a collection of different temp range plugs from =
Accel all the way from 113 through 117. I've never taken the time to =
play on the dyno to see if there's any difference changing heat range. I =
know =3D "my bad". I've never had a plug fail despite the amount of =
internet detritus regarding the quality of this brand.
>>=20
>> In any case I was thinking about switching to NGK. My TR6 motor is =
12:1, Webers, cam (street duration Isky Z19), header, etc. Ignition is =
Mallory / Pertronix.
>>=20
>> Would the NGK BP6ES or BP7ES be a better choice?
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> rml
>> =
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class=3D"">You also can=E2=80=99t read a plug without a clean chop, =
which few people ever bother with or have any idea how to do. It=E2=80=99s=
a lot more important than starting with a clean plug. I don=E2=80=99t =
doubt that there=E2=80=99s a difference in horsepower in having a plug =
so hot that its blistering or pre-igniting, or so cold that it=E2=80=99s =
fouling. But there=E2=80=99s nothing you can learn on a dyno about what =
plug to use. If you=E2=80=99re smart about it, you run a very cold plug =
on a dyno. And you mostly read plugs to get jetting right, not to =
choose the heat range. I consider myself to be pretty good at =
reading plugs, I pestered Bobby Strahlman long enough and hard enough to =
learn most of what he was willing to tell me. It=E2=80=99s a bigger deal =
for motorcycles, in the same way that jetting carbs is a bigger deal. If =
you=E2=80=99ve only got one or two cylinders, and you=E2=80=99ve only =
got 30 horsepower, you better get them all. <div class=3D""><br =
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mater. Most plugs I look at for the guys are generally to hot for =
the circumstances. Learn about this stuff. Clean the plugs, keep a =
little sand blast cleaner handy and never run a session without a few ( =
one or two CLEAN) plugs in the engine. You cannot read a dirty plug from =
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There=E2=80=99s no horsepower difference. The only function of heat =
range is to have the porcelain at the right temperature to burn off =
deposits and not overheat to the point that the plug electrode melts or =
the porcelain blisters. Or at an extreme that the spark plug starts =
acting like a glow plug. Some tracks that are very tight or that have =
elevation changes might dictate a change to a hotter plug, or one with =
long open straights might warrant a colder one, but once you=E2=80=99re =
in the ballpark you shouldn=E2=80=99t have to do much. <div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
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class=3D"">Hi,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I've been using Accel 114's =
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collection of different temp range plugs from Accel all the way from 113 =
through 117. I've never taken the time to play on the dyno to see if =
there's any difference changing heat range. I know =3D "my bad". I've =
never had a plug fail despite the amount of internet detritus regarding =
the quality of this brand.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">In any case I =
was thinking about switching to NGK. My TR6 motor is 12:1, Webers, cam =
(street duration Isky Z19), header, etc. Ignition is Mallory / =
Pertronix.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Would the NGK BP6ES or BP7ES be =
a better choice?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Regards,<br =
class=3D"">rml<br =
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