Cars have been raced quite successfully without wings for over 80 years.
And, there were spectacular races also.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Preiss" <spreiss@verizon.net>
To: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] State of F1
> It seems that brakes and their ability to stand up to the immense heat
> they
> generate is already a critical limitation. Also, regarding the wings, when
> one is lost due to fatigue of the mounts or a brush with another car, the
> resulting loss of downforce is often enough for the driver to completely
> lose control of the car. Car? More like a guided missile at this point.
> STeve P.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
> To: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>; "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
> Cc: "'Friends of Triumph'" <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] State of F1
>
>
>> Wind tunnels have an amazing cost. Some teams have two full size running
> 24
>> hours a day. Why? Wings and other little flipitts that reduce drag or
>> create downforce. This then is causing the worst situation which is the
>> passing from close quarters. Easy fix. Eliminate ALL wings. Wind tunnel
>> time would be reduced 80% and passing and we'd have sliding cars to
>> amusement of the fans. Brakes would be pressed to keep up with the top
>> speed as the cars would be vastly faster down the chutes.
>>
>> The cars would also much cheaper to produce and the spares would not be
>> necessary for $25,000 plus nose cones. But then of course you would not
> have
>> the sign boards to display the sponsors name etc. But if they go away
>> anyway, why not take the silly stubs and leafs and wings with them.
>> Reduce
>> the allowed telemetry and you save more engineer time and work force
>> along
>> with countless cost hours manufacturing all this junk. I've got more, but
> I
>> see my soap box is splitting, so I will too.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>
>> To: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
>> Cc: "'Friends of Triumph'" <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] State of F1
>>
>>
>> > Driver's salary is an illusion--almost all of them pay at least part
>> > for their seat through personal sponsorship. Lewis Hamilton is an
>> > exception, but there aren't many others.
>> >
>> > On Oct 22, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Joe Curry wrote:
>> >
>> >> I doubt that adjusting driver salaries will do any good since some
>> >> drivers
>> >> actually pay the team for their seat.
>> >>
>> >> Joe C.
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]
>> >> On
>> >> Behalf Of Andre Rousseau
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:47 AM
>> >> To: Terry Stetler
>> >> Cc: Bill Babcock; Friends of Triumph
>> >> Subject: Re: [Fot] State of F1
>> >>
>> >> Love GtL and GTR2
>> >>
>> >> Was bombing around Mosport last night in a TR4!
>> >>
>> >> Did anyone suggest the drivers should makes less? Or all have a base
>> >> salary and performance bonus.
>> >>
>> >> A
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPod
>> >> Andre Rousseau - andre@gt6.ca
>> >> 68 Triumph GT6 MK1 http://www.gt6.ca
>> >>
>> >
>> > Bill Babcock
>> > Babcock & Jenkins
>> > Billb@bnj.com
>> > 503.936.7660
>> > www.bnj.com
>> >
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