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Re: Re Clevite bearings

To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Re Clevite bearings
From: Guyots3@wmconnect.com
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 02:32:53 EST
In a message dated 4/1/04 11:15:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
lang@isis.mit.edu writes:

> The Glaciers that you can buy from TRF and Moss are in fact Al bearing
> material. The design of these bearings is the same as the old ones, but
> the babitting is different (Al) and more "modern". The hard core racers do
> not like these bearings because they will fail rapidly if there are oiling
> problems (even short duration events) and they wind up siezing to the
> crankshaft.

Bob, Bill, John et al,

Re the Clevite bearings,

I spent some time today at work, studying the 2002 telephone book sized 
Clevite catalog(ue).

They spend two full pages therein, extolling the virtues of their much 
vaunted Clevite 77 TriMetal bearings:

eg: Clevite 77 TriMetal engine bearings outperform & outlast all others. 
Designed specifically for the aftermarket engine rebuilders. TriMetal bearings 
are 
a rare combination of strength & flexibility. A sturdy steel layer provides 
maximum support. then, a copper/lead alloy provides strength as well as 
durability for extended life, even under harsh conditions. Finally a Babbitt 
layer 
provides the embedability and conformability that no Bi-Metal bearing can 
achieve. With Clevite 77 engine bearings, it all adds up to a superior 
performance. 
It takes three layers to be number one.

They further invite question to be directed to them at Clevite Engine Parts, 
(Dana Corporation), 1350 Eisenhower Place, Ann Arbor, MI 48108-3388.

Website Address : www.engineparts.com

I then looked up Triumph in their catalog, (and ignoring their listing for a 
mysterious 1998cc 4 cylinder 2.0 Liter Engine), I note that for the 1998cc 6 
cylinder 2.0 Liter AND the 2498cc 6 cylinder 2.5 Liter engine, they list the 
following:

Main Bearing Set: # MS-1112P [ALUMINUM AL-3] 

and

Con-Rod Bearing Sets # CB-982P [ALUMINUM AL-3] in std, 10, 20 and 30 thou 
oversized.

The Thrust Washer Set is # TW-229S [material unspecified]

CSK list prices are $111.99 for the Main Bearings, $15.99 for the Con Rod 
Bearings and $21.99 for the Thrust Washers. 

Note that these are full list prices and sizeable discounts are available via 
partsamerica.com and also by competitive price matching against other parts 
houses.

It seems more than a tad hypocritical of Clevite to extoll the virtures of 
their own TriMetal bearings and then only quote Bi-Metal Aluminum bearings for 
our Triumphs!

I wonder what their reasoning is?

Why do other makes get the TriMetal bearings but we do not?

I suppose that the best we can do is to use High Quality Oil, such as 
Valvoline's Synpower, and perhaps a tried and tested friction modifier, 
(preferably 
without Teflon and/or Molybendum), change it regularly, and use really good oil 
& air filters such as K&N. 

Anyhow those are my findings.

Best Regard 2 All.

Leon

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