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Subject: spitfire clutch questions
From: "Brad Kahler" <Brad.Kahler@141.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:42:28 -0700
Race weekend is getting close and we're trying to sort out the last few details 
of Susan's Spitfire.  We've run into an interesting situation/delima with 
respect to the clutch installation.

The PO had modified and installed a 77-80 steel slave cylinder and the 
operating rod that depresses the clutch cylinder piston.  (the 77-80 slave 
cylinder is about 1/4" longer than the mk3 slave cylinder)  The cylinder was 
modified in such a way as to allow it to be installed about 3/8" closer to the 
front of the tranny.  (front being towards front of car)  At the same time he 
also lengthened the operating rod by approximately 1/4 to 3/8".  

The facts we do know at this point are the disc has 10 splines which is stock 
for the mk3, the flywheel is aluminum and the operating lever that holds the 
throw out bearing is stock.  The throw-out bearing appears to be a stock mk3 
throw-out bearing and we're using basically a stock mk3 gearbox.  (all this was 
verified from various spares laying about)

At this point we do NOT know the clutch disk diameter but will have that info 
sometime this evening.

In talking with Nigel at Spitbits we came to the conclusion that possibly the 
PO has installed a mk4 10 spline 7 1/4" clutch on a stock mk3 (in size) 
flywheel.  This possibly would cause the operating point of the pressure plate 
to be moved towards the front of the car by about 3/8".  As near as I can tell 
this would necessitate a longer operating rod by about 3/8".  What I'm not sure 
of is why the PO would need to modify the slave cylinder to allow it to more 
3/8" farther forward also.  

Of course a lot of this is conjecture at this point.  Our goal is to use 
"stock" style components if at all possible and eliminate the need for modified 
slave cylinders and modified operationg rods.  

If he did use the 7 1/4" clutch I'm assuming it was done so for better 
performance.  Would the 7 1/4" clutch be that much better 6 1/2" clutch which 
was stock on the mk3?  (my ignorance is showing here!)

It seems to me that if what I'm guessing is true I can see the need for the 
longer operating rod which would be required to push the throw-out bearing 
forward to be in the correct relation to the pressure plate.  But what I can't 
understand is WHY modify the slave cylinder so it can be moved forward?  This 
has me baffled!

I currently have ordered a new mk3 slave cylinder and am hoping to get it to 
work with the current longer operating rod.

One other item, he also installed a throw-out bearing/operating lever return 
spring to (I assume) keep the throw-out bearing from contacting the pressure 
plate.  Is this needed or desired under racing conditions?

Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!


-- 
Brad

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1951 Dodge 1/2 ton B3B pickup (being restored)
1953 Mayflower TT29490LDL (almost a driver)
1957 Devin (TR3 based)
1957 TR3 Road Racer
1961 TR4 CT288L (being restored)
1962 TR3B TCF1564L (some day)
1964 Spitfire 4 BFC25720L (of Belgian decent)
1967 TR4A (aka Freddy)

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