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To: <Gt6steve@AOL.COM>, <emanteno@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: Racing Seat Question
From: "Roger Beasley" <beeline@iline.com>
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:53:34 -0400
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Amici,
When I purchased my TR-4 two years ago it most likely had the same seat
arrangement it had when made a racecar in 1971.  That is to say, it was
scary.  A fiberglas bucket with flimsy brackets mounted to the floor. 
Having seen the fatal results of a seat coming loose in a Jaguar a couple
of years ago, that was the first thing I changed about the TR.

We are fortunate in SW Florida to have E.J. Trivette here.  He is an ex
NASCAR driver--ran 11th in points as an independent in the early 70's. 
Since retiring from driving, he has become a constructor/fabricator.  For
awhile, he and a partner operated Baird and Trivett's in Atlanta.  They
built racecars and specialized in movie and TV cars and camera
vehicles--Smokey and the Bandit, the General Lee, etc.  After his partner
died, E.J. and his wife sold thier interest in that business and "retired"
here to North Fort Myers.  Since retiring, he has probably built over 100
race cars; mostly oval track, but he also has three SCCA national champions
and a Bonneville record holding 356 Porsche to his credit.   

So, I whent to E.J. to improve the seat mounting.  What he did was add some
NASCAR-style door bars and then make a "tic-tac-toe" -type matrix of a seat
mount.  It kicks up in the back and left side to weld to the door bars and
rear roll bar structure.  It is also welded to the floor, but the main
strength comes from the roll structure.  The seat belts anchor to the
matrix and the metal seat is attached to angle iron that allows it slide
forward or aft to accommodate either my wife or me.  The angle iron
attaches to the matrix with  6 aircraft fast pins.  While the mounting cost
more than the seat itself, this arrangement has drawn favorable comment
from every tech inspector who looked at the car--which makes me feel good
about my survivability possibilities.

I could probably get a picture of the mounting if there are individuals
interested.  

Roger Beasley
Cape Coral, Fl
TR-4 Vintage racecar
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> From: Gt6steve@aol.com
> To: emanteno@ibm.net
> Cc: FOT@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Racing Seat Question
> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 6:44 PM
> 
> In a message dated 5/12/99 2:42:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
emanteno@ibm.net 
> writes:
> 
> << I was advised by Kirkey that the proper way to mount the
>  seat is to the roll cage, and that the belts should be attached to the
roll
>  cage as well. The old bucket is bolted to the floor, as are the eyebolts
>  for the lap belts and anti-submarine belts >>
> This seems to be the standard thinking on this, idea is to have you stay
with 
> the protection during deformities.  Alas, mine too is installed as you 
> describe.  Does anybody outside NASCAR have a proper installation??
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<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D2 =
color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">Amici,<br>When I purchased my TR-4 two =
years ago it most likely had the same seat arrangement it had when made =
a racecar in 1971. &nbsp;That is to say, it was scary. &nbsp;A fiberglas =
bucket with flimsy brackets mounted to the floor. &nbsp;Having seen the =
fatal results of a seat coming loose in a Jaguar a couple of years ago, =
that was the first thing I changed about the TR.<br><br>We are fortunate =
in SW Florida to have E.J. Trivette here. &nbsp;He is an ex NASCAR =
driver--ran 11th in points as an independent in the early 70's. =
&nbsp;Since retiring from driving, he has become a =
constructor/fabricator. &nbsp;For awhile, he and a partner operated =
Baird and Trivett's in Atlanta. &nbsp;They built racecars and =
specialized in movie and TV cars and camera vehicles--Smokey and the =
Bandit, the General Lee, etc. &nbsp;After his partner died, E.J. and his =
wife sold thier interest in that business and &quot;retired&quot; here =
to North Fort Myers. &nbsp;Since retiring, he has probably built over =
100 race cars; mostly oval track, but he also has three SCCA national =
champions and a Bonneville record holding 356 Porsche to his credit. =
&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>So, I whent to E.J. to improve the seat mounting. =
&nbsp;What he did was add some NASCAR-style door bars and then make a =
&quot;tic-tac-toe&quot; -type matrix of a seat mount. &nbsp;It kicks up =
in the back and left side to weld to the door bars and rear roll bar =
structure. &nbsp;It is also welded to the floor, but the main strength =
comes from the roll structure. &nbsp;The seat belts anchor to the matrix =
and the metal seat is attached to angle iron that allows it slide =
forward or aft to accommodate either my wife or me. &nbsp;The angle iron =
attaches to the matrix with &nbsp;6 aircraft fast pins. &nbsp;While the =
mounting cost more than the seat itself, this arrangement has drawn =
favorable comment from every tech inspector who looked at the car--which =
makes me feel good about my survivability possibilities.<br><br>I could =
probably get a picture of the mounting if there are individuals =
interested. &nbsp;<br><br>Roger Beasley<br>Cape Coral, Fl<br>TR-4 =
Vintage racecar<br>----------<br>&gt; From: <font =
color=3D"#0000FF"><u>Gt6steve@aol.com</u><font =
color=3D"#000000"><br>&gt; To: <font =
color=3D"#0000FF"><u>emanteno@ibm.net</u><font =
color=3D"#000000"><br>&gt; Cc: <font =
color=3D"#0000FF"><u>FOT@autox.team.net</u><font =
color=3D"#000000"><br>&gt; Subject: Re: Racing Seat Question<br>&gt; =
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 6:44 PM<br>&gt; <br>&gt; In a message =
dated 5/12/99 2:42:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <font =
color=3D"#0000FF"><u>emanteno@ibm.net</u><font color=3D"#000000"> =
<br>&gt; writes:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &lt;&lt; I was advised by Kirkey that =
the proper way to mount the<br>&gt; &nbsp;seat is to the roll cage, and =
that the belts should be attached to the roll<br>&gt; &nbsp;cage as =
well. The old bucket is bolted to the floor, as are the eyebolts<br>&gt; =
&nbsp;for the lap belts and anti-submarine belts &gt;&gt;<br>&gt; This =
seems to be the standard thinking on this, idea is to have you stay with =
<br>&gt; the protection during deformities. &nbsp;Alas, mine too is =
installed as you <br>&gt; describe. &nbsp;Does anybody outside NASCAR =
have a proper installation??</p>
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