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To: Brian Conroy <briconroy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2000 roadster rear
From: David Patten via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 15:41:57 -0400 (EDT)
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The Roadster used the same center section as the 68-73 510 wagon. They have=
 the smaller 23 "V" shaped splines for the axle. The 510 Wagon came with 3.=
89 ratio and would be a fairly simple swap. It may need the input flange ch=
anged, but that would be it.=20

The 320, 520, 521 & 620 trucks also used the H190 differential with an alum=
inum case. The 320 case is slightly different in design and has 13 square s=
plines for the axle, but it will physically fit into the axle housing. It i=
s said that the later 620 cases were steel, but I've parted 78 & 79 620s an=
d they all had aluminum cases. The later trucks with H190s are steel case, =
used in the 720 & some early D21 Hard Bodies/Pathfinders.=20

All H190 centers, aluminum or steel, will fit into any H190 axle housing, b=
ut the axle splines are different. The 320 has 13 square splines, the rest =
of the trucks have the larger 29 "V" spline axles. There are also H190 23 s=
pline axles under the 810 Wagon and 29 spline axles under 83-84 200SX cars.=
 I outlined much of this in the thread I posted to Ratsun (Link below).=20

There was a 4.11 ratio that will fit the Roadster's aluminum housing , but =
these are RARE and came in a limited number of 620 trucks, automatics as I =
remember. T he 4.11 ratio can be found in the later trucks with the steel c=
ase, but these gears do not fit the aluminum cases. I've heard that the ste=
el case pinion gear can be machined to fit the aluminum case but I cannot v=
erify this as true. At an added weight, the whole steel case truck center w=
ith the 4.11 could be swapped into the Roadster with a side gear swap.=20

Here is the thread on H190 diffs that I posted on Ratsun a number of years =
ago.=20
link - [ https://ratsun.net/topic/17044-h190-differentials-wpictures/ | htt=
ps://ratsun.net/topic/17044-h190-differentials-wpictures/ ]=20

And another H190 post on Ratsun by Mike Klotz about spider and side gear sw=
aps.=20
link - [ https://ratsun.net/topic/10748-h190-spider-gear-swap/ | https://ra=
tsun.net/topic/10748-h190-spider-gear-swap/ ]=20

A post on the 1200 Wiki pages bout Datsun H190 rear axles.=20
link - [ http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/?title=3DH190 | http://dat=
sun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/?title=3DH190 ]=20

I hope this helps.=20

Dave Patten, Owner=20
FutoFab, LLC=20
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Are you near Ohio? I have a full rear end from a =E2=80=9869 2000. Not sure=
 of the gear ratio. I won=E2=80=99t be able to get to it until April as we =
are snowbirds this winter. Let me know if you=E2=80=99re interested and I=
=E2=80=99ll send pictures next month.=20
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On Monday, March 11, 2024, 11:28 PM, Alvin Gogineni via Datsun-roadsters <d=
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Rock,=20
That is a great question to ask on [ http://www.311s.org/ | www.311s.org ] =
. A few gearsets have been discussed/listed for sale. Another place to ask =
is on the Vintage Datsun Road Racing forum on Facebook.=20

There are several axles sizes between truck and roadster, I don't think the=
y are interchangeable.=20


On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 8:07 PM Duetto via Datsun-roadsters < [ mailto:dats=
un-roadsters@autox.team.net | datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

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Hi all=20

looking for a 4.10 rear for my 2000 roadster=20


or even just a gear set .=20


What other differentials will fit a 2000?=20

will truck diffs work with roadster axles ?=20

thanks=20


Rock=20
On 3/11/2024 3:10 PM, dana nojima via Datsun-roadsters wrote:=20

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Alvin,=20

Love the blossoms and blue!!=20

Dana=20

Today's Topics:=20

1. Happy 311 Day! (Alvin Gogineni)=20


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<html><body><div id=3D"zimbraEditorContainer" style=3D"font-family: arial, =
helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000" class=3D"1"><div>Th=
e Roadster used the same center section as the 68-73 510 wagon. They have t=
he smaller 23 "V" shaped splines for the axle. The 510 Wagon came with 3.89=
 ratio and would be a fairly simple swap. It may need the input flange chan=
ged, but that would be it. </div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div> =
<!--StartFragment-->The 320, 520, 521 &amp; 620 trucks also used the H190 d=
ifferential with an aluminum case. The 320 case is slightly different in de=
sign and has 13 square splines for the axle, but it will physically fit int=
o the axle housing. It is said that the later 620 cases were steel, but I'v=
e parted 78 &amp; 79 620s and they all had aluminum cases. <!--EndFragment-=
->The later trucks with H190s are steel case, used in the 720 &amp; some ea=
rly D21 Hard Bodies/Pathfinders. </div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div>=
<div>All H190 centers, aluminum or steel, will fit into any H190 axle housi=
ng, but the axle splines are different. The 320 has 13 square splines, the =
rest of the trucks have the larger 29 "V" spline axles. There are also H190=
 23 spline axles under the 810 Wagon and 29 spline axles under 83-84 200SX =
cars. I outlined much of this in the thread I posted to Ratsun (Link below)=
. <br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div> <!--StartFragment-->T=
here was a 4.11 ratio that will fit the Roadster's aluminum housing , but t=
hese are RARE and came in a limited number of 620 trucks, automatics as I r=
emember.  T<!--StartFragment-->he 4.11 ratio can be found in the later truc=
ks with the steel case, but these gears do not fit the aluminum cases. I've=
 heard that the steel case pinion gear can be machined to fit the aluminum =
case but I cannot verify this as true.  <!--StartFragment--> At an added we=
ight, the whole steel case truck center with the 4.11 could be swapped into=
 the Roadster with a side gear swap. <!--EndFragment--> <!--EndFragment--> =
<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Here is the thread on H1=
90 diffs that I posted on Ratsun a number of years ago. <br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div>link - <a href=3D"https://ratsun.net/topic/17044-h190-dif=
ferentials-wpictures/" data-mce-href=3D"https://ratsun.net/topic/17044-h190=
-differentials-wpictures/">https://ratsun.net/topic/17044-h190-differential=
s-wpictures/</a><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1=
"></div><div>And another H190 post on Ratsun by Mike Klotz about  <!--Start=
Fragment-->spider and side gear swaps.<!--EndFragment--><br data-mce-bogus=
=3D"1"></div><div>link - <a href=3D"https://ratsun.net/topic/10748-h190-spi=
der-gear-swap/">https://ratsun.net/topic/10748-h190-spider-gear-swap/</a> <=
br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>A po=
st on the 1200 Wiki pages bout Datsun H190 rear axles.<br data-mce-bogus=3D=
"1"></div><div>link - <a href=3D"http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/?t=
itle=3DH190" data-mce-href=3D"http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/?titl=
e=3DH190">http://datsun1200.com/modules/mediawiki/?title=3DH190</a><br data=
-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><div>I hope this helps.<br data-mce-b=
ogus=3D"1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div data-marker=3D"__=
SIG_PRE__"><div>Dave Patten, Owner<br><strong>FutoFab, LLC</strong><br></di=
v><div>199 Stark Hwy So<br></div><div>Dunbarton, NH 03046-4411<br></div><di=
v><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://futofab.com/"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener n=
oreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www.FutoFab.com</=
a><br></div><div>email - FutoFab@gsinet.net<br></div><div>Telephone - (603)=
 774-6964<br></div><div>Facebook - FutoFab LLC<br></div><div><br></div></di=
v><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-mar=
ker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Datsun Roadster List" &lt;datsun-roadster=
s@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"alvin gogineni" &lt;alvingogi@gmail.com=
&gt;, "Duetto" &lt;67duetto@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"Datsun Roadster Li=
st" &lt;datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, March =
12, 2024 8:53:21 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Roadsters] 2000 roadster rear<b=
r></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">
Are you near Ohio? I have a full rear end from a =E2=80=9869 2000. Not sure=
 of the gear ratio. I won=E2=80=99t be able to get to it until April as we =
are snowbirds this winter. Let me know if you=E2=80=99re interested and I=
=E2=80=99ll send pictures next month.<br><div>Brian<br><br><br><div class=
=3D"yahoo-signature"><a style=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"https://mail.oneli=
nk.me/107872968?pid=3Dnativeplacement&amp;c=3DGlobal_Acquisition_YMktg_315_=
Internal_EmailSignature&amp;af_sub1=3DAcquisition&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YMkt=
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nt-size:15px;color:#715ffa;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0">On Monday, March =
11, 2024, 11:28 PM, Alvin Gogineni via Datsun-roadsters &lt;datsun-roadster=
s@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yi=
v1771712693"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rock,<div>That is a great question to as=
k on <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" s=
hape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.311s.org"; target=3D"_blank">www.311s.org</=
a>. A few gearsets&nbsp;have been discussed/listed for sale. Another place&=
nbsp;to ask is on the Vintage Datsun Road Racing forum&nbsp;on Facebook.</d=
iv><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>There are several axles sizes between=
&nbsp;truck and roadster, I don't think they are interchangeable.</div><div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv1771712=
693gmail_quote"><div id=3D"yiv1771712693yqt87502" class=3D"yiv1771712693yqt=
7177895134"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv1771712693gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar =
11, 2024 at 8:07=E2=80=AFPM Duetto via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a rel=3D"nofol=
low noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">datsun-roadst=
ers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=
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    <p>Hi all</p>
    <p>&nbsp;looking for a 4.10 rear for my&nbsp; 2000 roadster <br clear=
=3D"none">
    </p>
    <p>&nbsp;or even just a gear set .<br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <p>What other differentials will fit a 2000?</p>
    <p>will truck diffs work with roadster axles ?</p>
    <p>thanks <br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <p>Rock <br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <div>On 3/11/2024 3:10 PM, dana nojima via
      Datsun-roadsters wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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          <div dir=3D"ltr">Alvin,&nbsp;</div>
          <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div dir=3D"ltr">Love the blossoms and
            blue!!</div>
          <div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
          </div>
          <div dir=3D"ltr">Dana</div>
          <div><br clear=3D"none">
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            <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 1. Happy 311 Day! (Alvin Gogineni)<br c=
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