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I have three cars in my shop today that were painted by Maaco.  I have =
another that I plan to take over to the Layton shop to have done this =
winter.  I have nothing but high respect for the folks at the Layton =
Maaco.  When I did my 36 English built Hudson the average bid was =
$20,000 from the local shops.  They all wanted to do it and said they =
were the best.  Paco, at Maaco did the job and it was under 3K.  I would =
trust them with any of my car work including fitting a new bumper.
By the way, does any one have a good source for work on wire wheels.  I =
have one (or perhaps two) that is bent---
Brownie
From: Ron Christensen=20
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:30 PM
To: Andrew B. Lundgren ; bmcu@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!
11 to 18K?????  Maybe on a Ferrari.  Maaco did a perfectly acceptable =
paint job for $395 on a Miata after we did the basic prep work.  They =
charged an addition hundred for the jams.
I converted my B from a rubber bumper car to a bumperless old style =
version for about $500 in parts (front and rear Sebring valances).  I =
made the plugs for under the tail lights out of foam and fiberglass and =
attached them as extensions to the rear valance.  I used the turn signal =
units from the front rubber bumper.  Modified an old B grill to finish =
off the job.
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From: bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net on behalf of Andrew B. Lundgren
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:07 PM
To: bmcu@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!=20
There are instructions out there, and a kit from moss.  It requires some =
welding and paint.  While I can weld, I haven't had much practice since =
my highschool shop classes...  I wouldn't want to take a torch to my B!  =
And I have no experience with painting and body work.  I spoke with the =
shop in Colorado.  Most of the work has do be done on the front end of =
the car, the part of mine that isn't damaged...  All of the work goes =
for about $2500, and then comes any needed body work and paint... =20
As there is paint work required at both ends, if I don't do the whole =
car, there will be blend marks.  I am a bit bummed about that.  Painting =
the entire car right runs in the 11,000-18,000 range. =20
I am not looking for a concourse car though, and that much for me on a B =
is out of the question, so I have some $ choices to make.  I might end =
up with a rubber bumper car at the end of this yet...
--
Andrew
On 6/14/2013 3:20 AM, Barry Engstrum wrote:
  I would think that there are step by step instructions on the =
internet.  There might be a You tube video on how to make the change.  =
It can't be that hard, you might need the attaching hardware and it =
could be just a bolt-up.  I'm sure that you would get a lot of help from =
club members.  I can't help for 2 weeks.
  BarryE  -  -  In Beijing China.
  =20
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  Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600
  From: andrew.lindeman@gmail.com
  To: bmcu@autox.team.net
  Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my '78!
  Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to Colorado just for =
a bumper.  However, I have never come across a finer shop than Sportscar =
Craftsmen.  They are a fantastic shop and a great resource for hard to =
find parts as well.=20
  Andy L.
  On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, R J DAVIS <rogerdavis87@msn.com> =
wrote:
    Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send this to the Club =
as well.
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    From: rogerdavis87@msn.com
    To: lundgren@byu.net
    Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!
    Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:15:37 -0600
    Good news, Andrew.  Perhaps someone in the club who has done this =
conversion can help you, rather than hauling it 1000 miles.
    How about it, guys.  Anyone done this conversion or know who can do =
it locally?
    Roger D
    > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600
    > From: lundgren@byu.net
    > To: bmcu@autox.team.net; mgs@autox.team.net
    > Subject: [Bmcu] They aren't going to try to total my '78!=20
    >=20
    > Got the good news back.
    >=20
    > The damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost. Now I =
need to=20
    > decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a new rear =
rubber=20
    > bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and direct the =
repair=20
    > shop to convert it to a chrome bumper car...
    >=20
    > I haven't come across a shop in UT that has done the chrome bumper =
    > conversion though. I am considering hauling it back to Colorado =
(my=20
    > home until 2 years ago) and have http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/ do =
the work.
    >=20
    > Either way, it will be on the road again! CHEER!
    >=20
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<DIV>I have three cars in my shop today that were painted by =
Maaco.  I have=20
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winter.  I have nothing but high respect for the folks at the =
Layton=20
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$20,000=20
from the local shops.  They all wanted to do it and said they were =
the=20
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>By the way, does any one have a good source for work on wire =
wheels. =20
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<DIV>Brownie</DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:ron.christensen@wsapr.com">Ron Christensen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2013 11:30 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dlundgren@byu.net =
href=3D"mailto:lundgren@byu.net">Andrew=20
B. Lundgren</A> ; <A title=3Dbmcu@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:bmcu@autox.team.net">bmcu@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going to try to total my =
'78!</DIV></DIV></DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DowaPara>11 to 18K?????  Maybe on a Ferrari.  Maaco =
did a=20
perfectly acceptable paint job for $395 on a Miata after we did the =
basic prep=20
work.  They charged an addition hundred for the jams.</P>
<P class=3DowaPara> </P>
<P class=3DowaPara>I converted my B from a rubber bumper car to a =
bumperless old=20
style version for about $500 in parts (front and rear Sebring =
valances).  I=20
made the plugs for under the tail lights out of foam and fiberglass and =
attached=20
them as extensions to the rear valance.  I used the turn signal =
units from=20
the front rubber bumper.  Modified an old B grill to finish off the =
job.</P>
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sans-serif"=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><B>From:</B> bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net on =
behalf of=20
Andrew B. Lundgren<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 14, 2013 8:07 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
bmcu@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bmcu] FW: They aren't going =
to try=20
to total my '78!</FONT>=20
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<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>There are instructions out there, and a kit =
from=20
moss.  It requires some welding and paint.  While I can weld, =
I=20
haven't had much practice since my highschool shop classes...  I =
wouldn't=20
want to take a torch to my B!  And I have no experience with =
painting and=20
body work.  I spoke with the shop in Colorado.  Most of the =
work has=20
do be done on the front end of the car, the part of mine that isn't=20
damaged...  All of the work goes for about $2500, and then comes =
any needed=20
body work and paint...  <BR><BR>As there is paint work required at =
both=20
ends, if I don't do the whole car, there will be blend marks.  I am =
a bit=20
bummed about that.  Painting the entire car right runs in the =
11,000-18,000=20
range.  <BR><BR>I am not looking for a concourse car though, and =
that much=20
for me on a B is out of the question, so I have some $ choices to =
make.  I=20
might end up with a rubber bumper car at the end of this=20
yet...<BR><BR>--<BR>Andrew<BR><BR>On 6/14/2013 3:20 AM, Barry Engstrum=20
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr>I would think that there are step by step instructions =
on the=20
  internet.  There might be a You tube video on how to make the=20
  change.  It can't be that hard, you might need the attaching =
hardware and=20
  it could be just a bolt-up.  I'm sure that you would get a lot of =
help=20
  from club members.  I can't help for 2 weeks.<BR>BarryE  =
- =20
  -  In Beijing China.<BR> <BR>
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  Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:04:53 -0600<BR>From: <A=20
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R>To:=20
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr>Hopefully you don't have to haul the car out here to =
Colorado=20
  just for a bumper.  However, I have never come across a finer =
shop than=20
  Sportscar Craftsmen.  They are a fantastic shop and a great =
resource for=20
  hard to find parts as well.=20
  <DIV> </DIV>
  <DIV>Andy L.</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3Decxgmail_extra><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Decxgmail_quote>On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM, R J DAVIS =
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    <DIV dir=3Dltr>Ooops... I replied only to Andrew and meant to send =
this to the=20
    Club as well.<BR><BR>
    <DIV>
    <HR>
    From: <A href=3D"mailto:rogerdavis87@msn.com"=20
    target=3D_blank>rogerdavis87@msn.com</A><BR>To: <A=20
    href=3D"mailto:lundgren@byu.net"=20
    target=3D_blank>lundgren@byu.net</A><BR>Subject: RE: [Bmcu] They =
aren't going=20
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-0600<BR><BR>
    <DIV dir=3Dltr>Good news, Andrew.  Perhaps someone in the club =
who has=20
    done this conversion can help you, rather than hauling it 1000=20
    miles.<BR><BR>How about it, guys.  Anyone done this conversion =
or know=20
    who can do it locally?<BR><BR>Roger D<BR><BR>
    <DIV>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:25:40 -0600<BR>> From: <A=20
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target=3D_blank>lundgren@byu.net</A><BR>>=20
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href=3D"mailto:mgs@autox.team.net"=20
    target=3D_blank>mgs@autox.team.net</A><BR>> Subject: [Bmcu] They =
aren't=20
    going to try to total my '78!=20
    <DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dh5><BR>> <BR>> Got the good news back.<BR>> =
<BR>> The=20
    damage appraisal doesn't exceed the replacement cost. Now I need to =
<BR>>=20
    decide if I want to restore it and spend the ~$1000 on a new rear =
rubber=20
    <BR>> bumper or spend the same $1000 on a chrome kit and direct =
the=20
    repair <BR>> shop to convert it to a chrome bumper car...<BR>> =
    <BR>> I haven't come across a shop in UT that has done the chrome =
bumper=20
    <BR>> conversion though. I am considering hauling it back to =
Colorado (my=20
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    href=3D"http://sportscarcraftsmen.com/"=20
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<BR>>=20
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