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To: "bmcu@autox.team.net" <bmcu@autox.team.net>, "Lindamood, Dennis E"
Subject: [Bmcu] FW: DPS Feedback
From: "Maclean, Jon A" <Jon.A.Maclean@boeing.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:22:09 -0700
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Good morning all
This is from the Utah State Highway Patrol for a safety inspection certific=
ate for your  vehicle registered as a vintage

Jon A. Mac Lean
Boeing GMATS Tech
Layton, Utah.
801-678-6319
801-315-2432
jon.a.maclean@boeing.com


From: Troy Marx [mailto:tmarx@utah.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:51 PM
To: Maclean, Jon A
Subject: Re: DPS Feedback

Jon,
Thank you for using our web-based feed back forum.

I am Lt. Marx with the Highway Patrol and currently over the safety inspect=
ion program.
You are correct that vintage vehicles do not need a safety inspection.  All=
 that is needed is for it to be properly registered.

The confusion probably comes from Utah Code 41-1a-226, which says, "The own=
er of a vintage vehicle applying for registration under this part shall pro=
vide a signed statement certifying that the vintage vehicle is owned and op=
erated for the purposes enumerated in Section 41-21-1<http://le.utah.gov/~c=
ode/TITLE41/htm/41_21_000100.htm> and that the vintage vehicle has been ins=
pected and found safe to operate on the highways of this state."
This is just the owner of the vehicle testifying to this, not an official i=
nspection.

Utah Code 41-21-1 gives the definition of a Vintage Vehicle.

Code 41-21-4 says, "The provisions of this title relating to minimum safety=
 equipment are not applicable to vehicles properly registered under Title 4=
1, Chapter 1a, Part 2, Registration, so long as the original equipment, on =
the vehicle at the time of its manufacture, is in good operating condition =
or has been replaced by equal or more efficient equipment in good working o=
rder and the vehicle is not operated in a manner or at a time that would co=
nstitute a public nuisance or create a hazard to other automobiles or perso=
ns."

Basically, as long as you properly register the vehicle and it meets the re=
quirements for a vintage vehicle, there is no inspection needed and no cert=
ificate other than a registration issued by the state.

Hopefully this helps.  Please contact me anytime if you have any other ques=
tions or concerns.

Troy



Lieutenant Troy Marx
Utah Highway Patrol
Vehicle Safety Section
Office: 801-965-4889
Cell: 435-830-2511
Email: tmarx@utah.gov
>>> <jon.a.maclean@boeing.com> 7/20/2011 2:23 PM >>>
>From :
jon.a.maclean@boeing.com

Name :
jon maclean

Phone :
801.678.6319

Resident :
Utah Resident

Pertaining To: :
Other

Message :
the utah DMV said you can answer this question. I have a
car registered as a Vintage Vehicle. according to UCA 53-8-2

05 para 1(b) (iii) vintage vehicles are not required to get

a safety inspection certificate. But i keep hearing from my

car club members that Utah requires a current certificate
be keep in the vehicles when on the road. Is this true and
if so can you provde a reference.This will clear up a lot
of uncertainty within my car club.
Thank you

Send :
Send



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Good morning all<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This is f=
rom the Utah State Highway Patrol for a safety inspection certificate for y=
our &nbsp;vehicle registered as a vintage<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"=
;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jon A=
. Mac Lean</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> <br></span><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Boeing GMAT=
S Tech</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> <br></span><span style=3D'font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Layton, Utah.</=
span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> <br></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>801-678-6319</span><spa=
n style=3D'color:#1F497D'> <br></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>801-315-2432</span><span style=
=3D'color:#1F497D'> <br></span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>jon.a.maclean@boeing.com</span><span st=
yle=3D'color:#1F497D'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";col=
or:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D=
'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4D=
F 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in=
;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tah=
oma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Troy Marx [mailto:tmarx@utah.gov] <br><b>Sent:<=
/b> Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Maclean, Jon A<br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> Re: DPS Feedback<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;ma=
rgin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","=
sans-serif"'>Jon,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Thank you for using our web-based feed back =
forum.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin=
:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ta=
homa","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I am Lt. Marx with the Highway Patr=
ol and currently over the safety inspection program. <o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>=
<span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>You are =
correct that vintage vehicles do not need a safety inspection.&nbsp; All th=
at is needed is for it to be properly registered.<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-=
bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-=
serif"'>The confusion probably comes from Utah Code 41-1a-226, which says, =
&quot;The owner of a vintage vehicle applying for registration under this p=
art shall provide a signed statement certifying that the vintage vehicle is=
 owned and operated for the purposes enumerated in Section <b><a href=3D"ht=
tp://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE41/htm/41_21_000100.htm">41-21-1</a></b> <span =
style=3D'color:red'>and that the vintage vehicle <u>has been inspected</u> =
and found safe to operate on the highways of this state.&quot;</span><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-=
bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-=
serif"'>This is just the owner of the vehicle testifying to this, not an of=
ficial inspection.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Utah Code 41-21-1 gives=
 the definition of a Vintage Vehicle.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001=
pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Code=
 41-21-4 says, &quot;The provisions of this title relating to minimum safet=
y equipment are not applicable to vehicles properly registered under Title =
41, Chapter 1a, Part 2, Registration, so long as the original equipment, on=
 the vehicle at the time of its manufacture, is in good operating condition=
 or has been replaced by equal or more efficient equipment in good working =
order and the vehicle is not operated in a manner or at a time that would c=
onstitute a public nuisance or create a hazard to other automobiles or pers=
ons.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ma=
rgin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Basically, as long as you prope=
rly register the vehicle and it meets the requirements for a vintage vehicl=
e, there is no inspection needed and no certificate other than a registrati=
on issued by the state.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hopefully t=
his helps.&nbsp; Please contact me anytime if you have any other questions =
or concerns.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom=
:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahom=
a","sans-serif"'>Troy<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.00=
01pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Li=
eutenant&nbsp;Troy Marx<br>Utah Highway Patrol<br>Vehicle Safety Section<o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;marg=
in-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sa=
ns-serif"'>Office: 801-965-4889<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Cell: 435-830-2511<br>Email: t=
marx@utah.gov<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'marg=
in:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;jon.a.maclean@boeing.com&gt; 7/20/20=
11 2:23 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>From :<br>jon.a.maclean@boeing.com<br><br>Name :=
<br>jon maclean<br><br>Phone :<br>801.678.6319<br><br>Resident :<br>Utah Re=
sident<br><br>Pertaining To: :<br>Other<br><br>Message :<br>the utah DMV sa=
id you can answer this question. I have a <br>car registered as a Vintage V=
ehicle. according to UCA 53-8-2<br><br>05 para 1(b) (iii) vintage vehicles =
are not required to get <br><br>a safety inspection certificate. But i keep=
 hearing from my <br><br>car club members that Utah requires a current cert=
ificate <br>be keep in the vehicles when on the road. Is this true and <br>=
if so can you provde a reference.This will clear up a lot <br>of uncertaint=
y within my car club. <br>Thank you<br><br>Send :<br>Send<br><br><br><br>Se=
nders IP Address : 130.76.64.109<br>Senders Host Name : 130.76.64.109<br>Se=
nder returned to : null<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>=

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