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Re: rules question

To: Smokerbros@aol.com
Subject: Re: rules question
From: "Darren Madams" <darren@madams.com>
Date: 11 Mar 2004 00:50:27 -0000
I agree.... what about a minivan with the "soul of a sports car"? :)  Or even 
the [previously] new "sporty" Mazda 6?  What's the designation/distinction?  
Simply 4 seats?  I believe some older RX-7s could be had with 4 seats (not that 
you'd want to use the back ones).  What about Porsche 911s?  Can't you cram 
someone in the back of those?  What defines a seat?  Those fold-down jump seats 
in the bad of " " club cab trucks?  If Rex was in this discussion, he would 
surely say the G35 is not an ST (or whatever class we're talking about) "duck" 
:)

But that's the problem of trying to design a class that is actually really 
defining preparation specs that could apply to any car... and then trying to 
squeeze all cars from 9 groups (S-H/Stock) into one class... if that was 
possible, we'd have A-Stock and A-Street Prepared and be done with the whole 
mess...

Personally, I like some of the prep rules of a lot of these " " other 
classes... and possibly they could replace Street Prepared (exclude from this 
fantasy how unfair that would be to existing SP competitors)... but if you're 
going as far making an eligible and exclusion list, let's just make classes.  
You're going to tell me that ANY Miata at all should be excluded from ST2?  
Nonsense!  That's what the class is about!

Same thing bugs me about the SPEED Touring Car series.  They could easily have 
"Touring Prep" rules... and apply that to a number of different cars... small 
1.6 or maybe 1.8 little cars... and then 2.3-2.8 (maybe 3.0l) bigger touring 
cars.  Then you could run your Civic hatchback in one class and your bigger 
motor BMWs in another... both prepped to similar rulesets.  And yes I know BTCC 
sort of does that, and GrandAm I believe did do that for a while.

Now, currently SPEED Touring allows different levels of mods to equalize 
cars... that's the only way to put different ducks into the same class.... and 
I surely don't want to be on THAT committee to decide that for STwhatever!!!

Yes, splitting classes cuts fields, but in the end if people like the rules and 
they have a place to competetively put their cars, then the fields get bigger.  
At the cost of stock (trunk-kits or not) and street prepared maybe yes....

  --Darren

Smokerbros@aol.com wrote ..
> The whole "sports car based" thing is screwed up, if you ask me.  A CRX
> is 
> based on  a Civic platform, but excluded because it has 2 seats.  An Audi
> TT is 
> accepted becasue it is A3 based and has "4 seats."  A Supra is allowed
> in 
> Street Mod, but a 300 ZX isn't.  I can make a very strong case for the
> G35 Coupe 
> being like the case of the Audi TT, except with more rear seat room.  The
> fact 
> that it is a bad B/Stock car doesn't matter to me.  Should probably be
> an 
> F/Stock car...  The 350Z is sort of like the CRX, a true 2 seat variant
> of a 4 
> seat platform. The RX-8 has no Sedan counterpart, is obviously a Sports
> Car 
> despite number of seats and doors.  In any case, it's a very thin line.
> The SEB 
> needs to make the STAC (and SMAC) come up with lists of eligible cars for
> their 
> respective classes.  STAC doesn't want to do it.  Yes, it's a big job,
> but 
> that's why they get paid the big bucks... (IMHO, of course...)
> 
> Charlie






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