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RE: Possible new SFR Regional class

To: "John J. Stimson-III" <john@harlie.idsfa.net>, Smokerbros@aol.com
Subject: RE: Possible new SFR Regional class
From: "Thana, Peter {HTS~Palo Alto}" <PETER.THANA@ROCHE.COM>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 14:52:24 -0700
I've been thinking about this even more over the past day.  Splitting
Street Tire would accomplish part of the goal, but Charlie hinted that
this might be paving the way for a national ST2 class, which means other
regions might be watching.  One potential problem I can think of is that
you are dealing with a smaller set of base cars to choose from, since
there are fewer 2 seaters on the market than sedan based cars.  It took
a while to figure out the direction of STX, but just thinking about this
class it might boil down to just one or two cars in a hurry.  Throw in
the regional nature of it and perceptions can quickly take over reality
due to differences in driver skill and car prep/commitment.  I believe
we could get a decent turnout at least initially, but the real test will
be how well participation holds up thru the first year and beyond.

Like I said it's a good concept and I think a lot of people will be
interested in trying it.

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: John J. Stimson-III [mailto:john@harlie.idsfa.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Smokerbros@aol.com
Cc: ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Possible new SFR Regional class


On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 09:30:30AM -0400, Smokerbros@aol.com wrote:
> There would be no turbo/supercharged cars, no V-8's and the S2000 
> would be
> excluded.

I think that Peter's idea of permitting cars based on their stock (or
maybe street prepared) class is a good one.  Just excluding the S2000
leaves a lot of other AS/BS cars that would kick butt: the BMW M Coupe
and Roadster, 6 cyl Z3, Porsche 968/944S2, Boxster S, and 911, Lotus
Europa, Acura NSX...

I think that it would be easier to base inclusion on existing
classifications rather than trying to come up with a formula or
exclusion list.  How does San Diego limit the cars that can run in
Improved Street?

This seems like it's not a lot different from running a street prepared
car in Street Tire class...there isn't a lot of difference between the
SP and STX rules besides STX requiring street legal emissions, which are
pretty much guaranteed anyway on a car running in Street Tire.  

However, a street-driven SP car is probably a lot farther from the
maximum prep level than a street-driven stock car, so an SP car
competing in the PAXed Street Tire class is really at a disadvantage.
The PAX index is based on cars that are prepared to the extent of the
rules.  Perhaps it would make sense to split the ST class into stock and
Street Prepared sub-classes.  Would that accomplish the same thing as
ST2?

-- 

john@idsfa.net                                              John Stimson
http://www.idsfa.net/~john/                              HMC Physics '94

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