You think it's bad with 2600lb/130hp? Try 2100lb/116hp/zero torque. And
add in the fact that even after dieting and exercise, Peter STILL has about
50lb on me.
Scot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thana, Peter {High~Palo Alto}" <PETER.THANA@ROCHE.COM>
To: "'Pat Kelly'" <lollipop487@attbi.com>; "Alan Gruner"
<algruner@yahoo.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: RE: Cereal and psychological warfare (was Stock Shock Chalk Talk)
> Yeah, when you race a 2600lb car with only 130hp the pressure to stay thin
> is immense. Sort of like the supermodels, except no one thinks we're
sexy.
> I hear Randy's even coming out with a new hat and underwear collection for
> the fall, so start your dieting early :P
>
> Well that pretty much takes care of the "too much autox content" problem,
> huh?
>
> Peter
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Kelly [mailto:lollipop487@attbi.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: Alan Gruner; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Cereal and psychological warfare (was Stock Shock Chalk
> Talk)
>
>
> Neither one of you looks like you eat breakfast, lunch or dinner! Shooting
> for good power to weight, I guess. :)
> --Pat K
>
> ----------
> >From: Alan Gruner <algruner@yahoo.com>
> >To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Cereal and psychological warfare (was Stock Shock Chalk Talk)
> >Date: Thu, Aug 8, 2002, 3:56 PM
> >
>
> > I think it's a mind trick Peter. I'll bet he doesn't
> > even eat breakfast. How can afford it after spending
> > all that money on tires and shocks. :)
> >
> > --- "Thana, Peter {High~Palo Alto}"
> > <PETER.THANA@ROCHE.COM> wrote:
> >> Since you're so damned fast and I can't afford
> >> Penskes, would you care to
> >> share with us the best brands of hats, underwear,
> >> and breakfast cereal? I
> >> really like Honey Comb but I also want to trophy at
> >> Nationals someday.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Randy Noll [mailto:rnoll98@yahoo.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:15 PM
> >> To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> >> Subject: Re: Stock Shock Chalk Talk
> >>
> >>
> >> I think we're still missing a large chunk of the
> >> debate here. Some
> >> responses are saying how people are not spending
> >> ridiculous amounts on
> >> tires, prep, etc. right now so why should they on
> >> shocks just to be
> >> competitive. The fact of the matter is if you aren't
> >> spending bucks on
> >> tires you won't be competitive even with shocks, at
> >> the national level.
> >> And, unfortunately all the national guys and gals
> >> have to run locally
> >> somewhere. So, for the unfortunate people that have
> >> to deal with the
> >> Andy McKees, Vic Sias's, and others like them at the
> >> regional level,
> >> you better have the best rubber, shocks, gloves,
> >> hat, underware,
> >> breakfast cereal, and the like in order to be
> >> competitive, because they
> >> do. The tire argument rings very true... it's much
> >> more expensive to
> >> keep up with rubber than with shocks.
> >>
> >> We can't look at the argument through "national
> >> driver's" and "regional
> >> driver's" eyes and say that one or the other is a
> >> minority or that a
> >> rule only favors one or the other. All national
> >> drivers are regional
> >> drivers, and all regional drivers have to drive
> >> with/against national
> >> drivers. Quite frankly, each one needs the other for
> >> our hobby to
> >> survive.
> >>
> >> I don't think people would mind spending money on
> >> penskes if they could
> >> be ensured that their car would be competitive for 5
> >> or more years with
> >> that setup. What would worry me is that I might make
> >> an investment in a
> >> car (whether it's mine already or I buy it
> >> specifically to autox) that
> >> could be deemed uncompetitive next year, regardless
> >> of equipment.
> >> Again, maybe we should be looking more at stock
> >> class stability?
> >>
> >> Like Katie said for herself, I'm sure 90% of us will
> >> still autox
> >> regardless of what the rules are.
> >>
> >> randy
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