What I want to know is where Tony learned so much
about pavement.
--- Anthony Tabacco <atabacco@california.com> wrote:
> James, that is such a small area the contractors
> move in costs would be very
> high (but nowhere near $10K). Hand laid asphalt is
> very hard to work or you
> could use a cold laid product and put it in yourself
> but I don't think you
> would like the results. Without supporting base,
> paving is in fact not all
> that stable plus it gets soft in hot weather. Kinda
> ugly, too Would it be
> feasible for you to purchase those 12" square
> precast concrete pavers
> (either in a contrasting color or in red concrete)
> and hand lay them? You
> would need to excavate down a few inches so they
> were flush with the
> concrete strips. better yet, set them 1/2" apart in
> a gravel bed and fill
> the joints with soil/plant with chamomile. It would
> be just fine to work on,
> plenty stable, supportive, maintains drainage, plus
> it leaves your overalls
> with a nice herb scent. The next best alternative
> would be to use the two
> existing strips as a screed for a concrete pour,
> which you can dye, paint,
> or stain to match. You could do that your self, less
> than 2 yards,
> especially by putting in cold joints and only
> pouring a little at a time,
> or do the excavation and prep and have a contractor
> do the pour. OK?
> Tony
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "james creasy" <Black94PGT@pacbell.net>
> To: "Anthony Tabacco" <atabacco@california.com>;
> <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:38 AM
> Subject: driveway contracting question, was Re: A/C
> Paving 101
>
>
> > i have a related question.
> >
> > my driveway has two strips of hard material (red
> concrete?) with grass in
> > the middle. id love it if i could the last 20
> feet or so paved over so i
> > could work on my car outside. any tips for what
> to ask for for a
> > contractor, or tips on finding one? if this will
> cost more than $10K
> forget
> > it.
> >
> > the original driveway was built in 1923 and it
> about 35 feet long- runs
> > right next to the house on one side for about 20
> feet.
> >
> > in the summer i can put a jack on the dirt/grass,
> but im not brave enough
> to
> > crawl underneath with jack stands on just dirt.
> >
> > anyone done this? advice? thanks,
> >
> > -james "now a new jag driver" creasy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anthony Tabacco" <atabacco@california.com>
> > To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:20 AM
> > Subject: A/C Paving 101
> >
> >
> > > Hot Mix Asphalt Paving ingredients include
> asphalt binders, course and
> > fine
> > > aggregates, and mineral fillers. About 90-95% of
> the total volume of the
> > mix
> > > is made up of aggregates. Surfaces that we
> usually associate with gravel
> > > buildup will usually be of a mix design that
> contains a high percentage
> of
> > > course aggregates, and probably a degradation of
> binders though wear and
> > > evaporation (petroleum products evaporate).
> There are various surface
> > > treatments, ranging from sprayed asphalt,
> asphalt seals (fog seal), to
> > > slurries of emulsified asphalts mixed with fine
> aggregates, that can
> > extend
> > > the life of paving by limiting water intrusion,
> and these are
> particularly
> > > necessary as the mix begins to disintegrate.
> > >
> > > I can think of no other activity that will
> degrade a paved surface
> faster
> > > than autocrossing on it. The aggregates are
> literally being pulled from
> > the
> > > surface. Even high traffic-index truck traffic
> will not subject a
> surface
> > to
> > > the high shear of racing cars on it. So that's
> where the gravel comes
> > from,
> > > and that's why no matter how we sweep it, it
> reappears. It is just the
> > > pavement breaking down. Irreparably.
> > >
> > > With rough grading, but no curbs, gutters,
> marking, right now you can
> > figure
> > > about $3.00 per square foot in install a medium
> index (for large areas
> and
> > > not a high traffic-index) parking lot. The lot
> at GGF to use an example
> is
> > > 550,000 SF (about 12.6 acres not counting the
> staging area). That's
> works
> > > out to a little over $1.6M.
> > >
> > > This is all pretty boring stuff but it begs a
> question that is
> interesting
> > > ( I've always found it very interesting anyway),
> namely : Why would
> anyone
> > > let us do this to their lot?
> > >
> > > Tony
Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
|