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Re: Saftey Concerns?

To: Stacey <swilbur@sprynet.com>, ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Saftey Concerns?
From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 08:01:01 -0800
Stacey, sign up for the tech crew...they need folks who care and you
certainly do sound like a smooth fit for the job. 
--Pat Kelly
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>From: "Stacey" <swilbur@sprynet.com>
>To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Saftey Concerns?
>Date: Tue, Mar 5, 2002, 11:24 PM
>

>I hesitate to write this as I am new, know nothing and am
>a Novice....  Did I just say the same thing 3 times???
>
>So I hope that you do not take it wrong and tell me to get lost
>or something.  I really do like what took place Sunday and look forward
>to spending many more with you.
>
>But I did want to comment on some issues and ask for
>others opinions as to whether some of these actions are the norm or if they
>were oversights without sounding like I am standing on a soap box
>or something.  I apologize for it being so long.
>
>
>Sunday was my first SFR SCCA event (as noted in an earlier posting)
>but I had a few safety concerns or observations that I wanted
>to discuss...
>
>1)  I got teched about 10:30 maybe not sure.  But there was no one over there
>      just 3 or 4 vettes that had been abandoned.  I was not even sure if I 
>was in
>      the right place as I expected someone to be there, or a sign or 
>something.
>
>      Also, a minute later, another novice first timer parked behind me and we
>      asked each other if this was the place to get teched, neither of us knew
>      the answer.
>
>      A few minutes later 4 people showed up and did the tech.
>      It was quick.  Maybe too quick?  I was not assured that they
>      looked at enough stuff.  For instance they did not jack it up.
>      They did not check for loose wheel bearings or for oil leaks.
>      And it was not obvious that they checked my tire tread.
>      They also missed some loose stuff in my ash tray ( a mini-super ball)
>      which I found before the run and removed. 
>
>      Later I was surprised to see that cars with items hanging from the 
>rear view mirror 
>      like Pepsi balls on a chain were passed by Tech.  And then there was the 
>car
>      that had a stuck throttle during my work shift.
>      
>      The only other tech I ever had for autox was at NASA but it seemed to be
>      more thorough.  The tech was done on grid and was easier to locate 
>and required less
>      car movement/traffic.
>
>2)   I was surprised/shocked to see passengers running in the autox holding
>      video cameras, recording as the car was on course.  I thought that only
>      fixed, properly mounted cameras would be allowed.  When I was
>      doing my work shift I saw at lease 3 different cars with passengers 
>doing this.
>      Is this permitted?
>
>3)   I would have liked to have seen just a tad more spacing on the car starts.
>      I worked in station 1B or is it 1.5 by the pole.  By the time I watched 
>the
>      car pass and then go up around the corner at 2 and then head back to 1
>      facing right at us and then spinning out in the sweeper another car 
>would 
>      already be started and headed for us again with my back to it.   It 
>would 
>      have felt safer to have another few seconds so that the car was headed 
>      away from me before I had to worry about another car headed toward me 
>      from the start.  I was the only one in this station for the first 10 
>minutes
>      of my shift at the end of group 7.  Once some other workers showed up we
>      kind of took turns watching in both directions.
>
>      I also did not like the fact that I was a Novice and was stationed at 1.5
>      or 1 B or whatever you want to call it and I was by myself.  The previous
>      3 people stationed there bolted as soon as I walked over from station 1
>      where we had 3 people already swapped out.  I thought that they should 
>have
>      waited for other workers to show up.
>
>      Also at my station there was only a radio holder but no radio.  So at 
>the end of
>      my shift, when the 8th group of cars started and 2 replacement workers
>      finally showed up I got them a third worker from station 1A, which 
>had 4 workers,
>      and got them  a replacement radio from the camper.  I noticed at that 
>point that the camper did
>      a radio check with each station.  We did not get one at the start of 
>group 7,
>      or maybe we did but since we did not have a radio so we did not hear it?
>
>       I guess it should have been made more clear that there were 
>additional work stations.
>       Both Station 1 and Station 2 had two work locations.  Maybe the 
>others did as well but
>       it was not obvious to the workers (at least us new ones).  I guess a 
>few more station signs 
>       would help this problem.
>
>4)    I thought that the distance from the finish line to the stop sign and 
>results person was 
>       too short.  It would be nice to be able to go through the trap at 
>speed and not have to worry about
>       having to stop so quickly to avoid running over someone. 
>
>5)   I noticed several cases when a worker was in harms way by the finish 
>line on the outside
>      of a turn trying to right a cone when the next car came by.   There 
>should have been another station,
>      maybe close to the camper, on the correct side of the course.  This 
>worker had to come from
>      some distance away and cross the line of traffic to right the cone.  
>I think there could have
>      been a safer way to do this.
>
>6)  I was not sure when to actually use the red flag.  I know that if I see 
>an unsafe
>     situation that I should use it but I was unsure that if someone else 
>was using one should
>     everyone else also wave the read flag and stop everything or only the 
>section that was
>     having problems?   I remember one case when there was a safety issue near 
>the
>     finish and no one was red flagging but the announcer said to and 
>wanted the following car to
>     be red flagged as well but none was given.  Should we all have red 
>flagged to try to
>     get the cars attention?
>
>7)    I was impressed with the fact that they delayed the start of the 
>first group as a 
>       result of a safety officer deciding that the big sweeper was too 
>close to one of the
>       poles (about 30 feet) and he had the course changed to give at least 
>50 feet distance to the
>       pole.  There were several spinouts there during the runs, although I 
>do not think any got
>       close to the pole but its is always better to be on the safe side.  
>This was a good move.
>
>      
>8)    On a lighter side....
>        Maybe we should have someone checkup on the use of legal
>        Coke and Pepsi stimulants by drivers to help promote a safer 
>environment.
>        
>        Maybe we need a blood or pee test to check for presence of 
>excessive Coke or Pepsi
>        in the system!  ;-)
>
>
>Thanks everyone for making it a fun and safe day for all of us.
>
>Please comment as appropriate but please do not beat me up to badly.
>As I said I am a novice and just wanted to ask some questions and make some 
>observations,
>partly to learn and partly to let you know what a first timer feels and 
>sees compared to the
>more experienced auto crosser.
>
>
>OK, let the bullets fly
>
>
>-Stacey

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