I can't find our region rules (St. Louis) but I bet were not covered very
well either :( I'll dig them up and post them, but this brings me to
another point:
When we as event organizers are in the process of making rules, we need to
keep several things in mind:
1) This sport is supposed to be fun, and grassroots. We needn't make it so
official that it ruins the fun. (Safety is excluded, of course)
2) When you are making a rule, step back and think: Why am I making this
rule? Do we want to live with it for eternity? Just because this rule
feels correct/needed now, will it still be so in 5 years with different
people/management/etc.?
3) Can we enforce this rule? And with who? Using Sam's example, if you
have a 5 mph rule, do you have a radar speed trap with a worker issuing
tickets/dsq? Are you ready to disqualify someone for driving 6mph, or is
8mph and under good enough? If 8 mph is good enough, then why isn't the
rule 8 mph? The rule can't be 8 mph because then you would have to allow
people to go 11! A nasty slope to start going down!
I agree that without rules and enforcement, events can get out of hand. I'm
also all for the notion that everybody follows the rules, not just certain
people, etc., but sometimes we react to a current event and then make a new
rule without thinking it through. I've done this myself. Then we end up
with rules that don't do the job they were intended to.
Food for though (or just to make you sick)
Dave W
PS I'm not nearly smart enough to have thought up all this myself, I just
added comments taken from people who are much smarter than me together and
made one coherent thought.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam & Greg Scharnberg" <samandgreg@uswest.net>
To: <kcautox@egroups.com>; <hottvr@tfs.net>; <autox@autox.team.net>;
<wichita-scca@autox.team.net>; <autox-cm@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: Illegal tire warm ups?? According to what rules.....
> Hey folks,
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> Define Illegal tire warm ups? The Solo II Rule Book p. 67 Sec.6.11 states
> "Pre-heating of tires prior to competition by electrically heated covers
or by
> similar means is prohibited." PERIOD! No where in that section is it
implied
> or stated that driving to the start while weaving side to side IS tire
> warming. Therefore, for National, Divisional, and Regional events what
> constitutes "tire warming" other than electrical means NEEDS to be defined
in
> the Supplementary Regulations before any penalties can be assessed.
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> Also, If idling to the start line while weaving back and forth is a Safety
> issue, it should be defined as such, and is NOT.
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> OKay, regions dig out Your Supplementary Regulations and read them. Are
there
> any statements concerning "tire warm ups?" If there are, what is the
> specific
> wording? Please forward to me. Regions stating a 5 mph restriction are not
> with the real world. How do you enforce that? Do you have a radar gun and
> screen every participant at all times? I do not think so..........You must
NOT
> have any prepareds or modifieds in your region at all!! Those cars can NOT
> idle at 5 mph.........Discrimination!!!!
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> I do not believe tires can be warmed with the "little wiggling to the
start
> line" but some rocks may be knocked off the front tires and the back tires
> will
> be cleaned at the start line....guaranteed! Officials stating this person
may
> be DSQ can look forward to a charge of Discrimination if there is NO RULE
in
> the supplementary regulations stating the action was illegal.
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> Looking forward to lots of "Supplementary Rules" from regions or maybe NOT
> :-),
> Sam
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