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Re: [Re: [Re: steel wheel color]]

To: "Ian Spencer" <SpenceIC@Healthall.com>, <bmounce@impop.bellatlantic.net>,
Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: steel wheel color]]
From: Jan Eyerman <jan.eyerman@usa.net>
Date: 2 Feb 2001 10:14:35 EST
The 13 inch wheel used on the Alpine was used on the Super Minx starting in
late 1961 (1962 models) and on the regular Minx starting in late 1963 (for
1964 models).  Again, Hillmans wheels were painted "Foam White"-the color
usually used on Husky's for around the windows and on roof sections of Super
Minxes.  

However, note that Singer wheels were painted differently then Hillman
wheels-the wheels matched the side flash.  So it is possible that Alpine
wheels were also painted differently.

Jan




"Ian Spencer" <SpenceIC@Healthall.com> wrote:
Yes, this is true and I think it will need some looking into. I've ofter
wondered what color was used, but never had a real desire to figure it out
until Jan and I started formulating body colors. Were the same steel wheels
used on other Rootes Vehicles? I'm assuming that they were, which kinda blows
my theory out of the water. I will agree that it is an egg shell white.... but
which Rootes color is it exactly? Hummm......

Ian Spencer
Client Services
University Hospital
Health Alliance of Greater Cincinnati
(513) 584-0365

>>> Jan Eyerman <jan.eyerman@usa.net> 02/02/01 09:54AM >>>
While you are correct regarding the Alpine, Rootes had a number of variations
of white available.  It appears that Hillmans used "Foam White" or later
"Foam
Gray" (same color) on the wheels.  This was a slightly gray toned white
(definitely NOT yellow).  I think Alpines used this (but I am not sure). 
However, Singers had their wheels painted to match the contrasting body
flash.
 

Jan Eyerman





Ian Spencer <ian@sunbeamalpine.org> wrote:
I'm going out on a limb on this, but I think this is one that I need to
look into a bit more. My instinct, based on what I've seen on cars I've
dismantled, tells me that the early cars used Moonstone (code 19) on the
steel wheels starting with the later Series II's somewhere just before
B9107291. Cars earlier than that had steel wheel that were painted the
same color as the body of the car. Moonstone was the only white
available on the Alpine until late Series IV when they introduced Artic
white (code 92). 

Now, it makes since to me that they would have used the colors that were
available to them at the time. Why would they create a special white
just for the steel wheels? Just use what's available...right? So with
that in mind, I would think that early car would have (code 19)
Moonstone wheels and cars starting with the later Series IV's went to
(code 92) Artic white. I won't be able to confirm this until I can get
my hands on some good wheels with original paint on them. I'll get Jan
to test the paint and see if it matches the colors we've already had
mixed. We have a Series V in original unrestored condition right now, so
we can test the color of those wheels, but the early stuff will have to
wait until I can find a sample. 
my 2 cents,
Ian


bmounce@impop.bellatlantic.net wrote:
> 
> Curt at Classic told me off white was original, so ivory would be about
right.
> Also, like old Lionel trains, the shade changed from year to year to year,
and the
> paint also ages over time.  Bill
> 
> ellis838@concentric.net wrote:
> 
> > Hi Bob,
> >   I bought steel wheels to replace the ugly mags on my Alpine, each one
had a
> > different date code and many layers of silver paint. Several applications
of
> > chemical stripper revealed all to have an ivory/yellow color as the most
likely
> > original color. I bought the best match I could find in a spray can, not
sure
> > it is the right color but it grew on me. That said I have not seen anyone
else
> > with an ivory like color on their wheels so I could be way wrong on this
one.
> > Jim 66 SV [soon to have the new wires from the parts car]
> >
> > "Berghult, Bob" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi List,
> > >         My son and I are bringing his Series 3 GT back to original
color,
> > > one item I'm not sure of is what is the correct color on the standard
steel
> > > wheels?  The hard top and body are 39 Carnival Red, but the wheels have
us
> > > stumped.
> > >
> > > Bob Berghult
> > > Series IV, B9405637 LRX 39 (mine)
> > > Series 3 GT, B9203825 GT LRX 39 (son's)
> > >
> > > [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef]

-- 
Ian Spencer <www.sunbeamalpine.org>
'61 Series II Alpine B9104704 LRX
'61 Harrington Alpine B9104782 OD HRO
'62 Harrington Le Mans BH9115930 OD LRX
'62 Harrington Le Mans BH9116754 OD LRX
'62 Harrington Le Mans BH9117497 OD LRX
'64 Series IV Automatic B9401426 BW LRX
'67 Series V Alpine B395016967 LRX

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