- 1. [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Steve Shipley <shiples@comcast.net>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:13:52 -0700
- Although I've never had a break-in, I recently have been affected by the price of copper. Somebody stole my downspouts! They didn't get them all, I pulled the rest down and tucked them away. In the i
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00068.html (7,965 bytes)
- 2. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Rich White <rlwhitetr3b@hotmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 07:13:13 -0500
- While what you are suggesting is understandable and intriguing, I m not sure it is legal. If the system is unattended, an innocent person or animal might get hurt. Years ago I hear of a man that rigg
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00069.html (7,772 bytes)
- 3. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Wayne <wmc_st@xxiii.com>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 09:19:54 -0400
- Sounds tempting, but it's well established law and legal precedent that a lethal "booby trap" makes its installer guilty of homocide. EVEN IF it's INSIDE his home or business, and the victim B&E'ed t
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00070.html (7,771 bytes)
- 4. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "Patricia Lane" <lane495@nctc.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:30:47 -0500
- I have a non-intrusive, innocent looking wire running around my landscaping in the front of the house. I had a duck that liked to lay her eggs under one of the larger Yews. The dogs (Southern dogs) l
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00071.html (8,111 bytes)
- 5. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "john niolon" <jniolon@bham.rr.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:02:44 -0500
- Patricia ??? why doesn't the wire bother the duck ??? does she fly over or are those webbed feet insulated ? john _______________________________________________ Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00072.html (8,110 bytes)
- 6. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:16:49 -0700
- Right. It's important to keep it sub-lethal. Say about Taser level. Electric fence chargers (at least the ones I'm familiar with) deliver a single jolt of high voltage (several hundred volts) every
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00073.html (7,884 bytes)
- 7. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:34:10 -0400
- The problem with most of these sub-lethal strategies is that you create a really pissed off crook. Now instead of stealing something, maybe he'll trash the entire place. Or set it on fire. Back when
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00074.html (7,763 bytes)
- 8. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:39:02 -0400
- Upon rereading, I feel a need to clarify. I am trying to warn against creating an angry criminal. I am NOT trying to suggest that you use lethal strategies instead. There. OK? Now my attorney is much
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00075.html (7,999 bytes)
- 9. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Wayne <wmc_st@xxiii.com>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:08:39 -0400
- Years ago, uhh... these guys, I, uhh... heard about had some electronics stolen from a car, and a lot of unnecessary damage done to the car in the process. These same guys were rumored to dabble in
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00076.html (8,071 bytes)
- 10. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "Mike Frerichs" <shoptalk@centipi.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:16:56 -0500
- The problem comes in when I go to my local pawn shop and buy the radar detector that the thieves never tried. They just sold it for the money, and now I get taken out. Having been on the wrong end of
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00077.html (7,225 bytes)
- 11. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: scott.hall@comcast.net
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:27:46 +0000
- extra-crispy, move to the deep south, and practice saying, "there must have been a wire rubbing against the gutters on the outside extension cord I've got for the sprinkler system, or something. dunn
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00081.html (8,981 bytes)
- 12. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "john niolon" <jniolon@bham.rr.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:54:06 -0500
- ok ?? show of hands... how many of you innocent people have gone to a friend or strangers house and grabbed hold of his copper gutters ?? anyone ?? anyone j and Patricia ?? ducking under ?? cute ___
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00082.html (8,634 bytes)
- 13. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Wayne <wmc_st@xxiii.com>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 17:16:45 -0400
- Well, if your friendly neighborhood pawn broker is selling stolen merchandise... It was said to be a long time ago. Back when someone would actually steal an Escort. I never read about the guys in th
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00084.html (8,782 bytes)
- 14. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "Mike Frerichs" <shoptalk@centipi.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:38:09 -0500
- I hadn't even thought of this connection, but now that you mention This morning, I and some other men went over to the house of a widow who was in need of some help getting her yard cleaned up. We we
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00085.html (9,407 bytes)
- 15. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Steve Shipley <shiples@comcast.net>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:38:39 -0700
- Thank you Patricia, Could you elaborate on the type of circuit? They just made goats legal as pets here in Seattle. Perhaps I could claim the thief was molesting my goat. ____________________________
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00086.html (8,660 bytes)
- 16. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Steve Shipley <shiples@comcast.net>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:33:42 -0700
- I'm aware that it's illegal to shoot a thief in the back as I'm chasing him with a shotgun or a MAC10. But what if when the thief pulls on the downspout the buzzer goes off and he feels a little ting
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00087.html (8,812 bytes)
- 17. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "Patricia Lane" <lane495@nctc.com>
- Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:34:22 -0500
- I do not know the technical terms for the different fencers I have. I do know that the fencer that is around the landscaping is an "always on" fencer. The fencer that contains the cows, goats, and ho
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00088.html (8,063 bytes)
- 18. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: Steve Shipley <shiples@comcast.net>
- Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:20:37 -0700
- Details please! Are they armed robbers who when confronted will kill? Or will they kill first, then take my scrap? I figure I was a good score, maybe 300-400 bucks. But with more secure hangers, alar
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00091.html (11,018 bytes)
- 19. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "Chadwick E. Labno" <chad@linuxeg.com>
- Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:32:29 -0400
- I haven't read every posting so this may have not be pertinent but some years back - 10, if not more - a shop owner (TV repair) booby trapped his shop with hi voltage. Some criminal - sorry - "allege
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00092.html (8,446 bytes)
- 20. Re: [Shop-talk] Shop security (score: 1)
- Author: "David Scheidt" <dmscheidt@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:33:08 -0400
- It was "scrappers" killing other scrappers. I think the victims stole some scrap from the first people, who'd stole it themselves. The murders were certainly the sort of people who'd have smashed you
- /html/shop-talk/2007-10/msg00093.html (8,983 bytes)
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