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1. Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Gt6steve@aol.com; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:22:23 EST; Greetings Amici, I'd like to solicit the opinions of the group on retorquing the head gasket after the initial heat cycle. I've always warmed the engine to 200 degrees and then retorqued to spec whil; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00124.html (7,728 bytes)
2. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: "Mordy Dunst/Gasket Works USA, LLC" <gasket.works@gte.net>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 08:19:57 -0800; Not being an engineer by profession... Steve: you have a better engineering mind than I... So, if you are befuddled then I am concerned.... I'll give you my thoughts... the very definition of "re-tor; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00125.html (8,144 bytes)
3. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Joe Curry <Spitlist@gte.net>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:21:32 -0700; I once bought a NOS head gasket from a friend of mine for a Spitfire engine. When I opened the package a little slip of paper fell out. It was a notice from STANPART that said to be sure that after; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00126.html (8,961 bytes)
4. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: "John Wilkins" <john@race-dogs.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:24:12 -0800; I have to concur with Mordy about the Copper, I do check the torque and never need any more torque. I do retorque stock gaskets after the engine is cooled back down and all items that have expanded a; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00129.html (8,878 bytes)
5. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: n197tr4@cs.com; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:33:48 -0500; I have never had a problem with copper gaskets where the mating surfaces were correct. Attempt to retorque resulted in little or no motion on the torque wrench. Of course my sample size is somewhat l; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00130.html (8,761 bytes)
6. RE: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:44:55 -0800; This implies that you didn't loosen and retorque or remove, lube and retorque. When you try to torque a nut that's settled you are overcoming the stiction of the threads. You'll have to exceed torque; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00132.html (9,549 bytes)
7. RE: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:38:57 -0800; I think everyone is on the right track. The complicating factor is how much everything moves. These are very strange engines. We have a cast iron block, steel sleeves, cast iron head, some very long; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00135.html (11,053 bytes)
8. RE: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:08:59 -0800; By the way, here's some common stretch specs for ARP bolts, along with a little more discussion on torque VS stretch from a website I found. The angle method scares the heck out of me--I don't know w; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00138.html (13,479 bytes)
9. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: "elliottd" <elliottd@look.ca>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:51:09 -0500; If you remove all the split lock washers, you must be removing about 5 pounds. That will increase your acceleration. I heard somewhere that Colin Chapman fired a mechanic for using washers on their L; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00139.html (15,309 bytes)
10. RE: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:02:02 -0800; If it's not true it should be. Here's a link about stretch I just found: http://www.arp-bolts.com/pages/tech/fastener.html If you remove all the split lock washers, you must be removing about 5 pound; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00140.html (15,845 bytes)
11. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Brett Johnson <356drb@indy.net>; Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:38:02 -0800; Don et al, Len Pritchard, partner in Williams & Pritchards, who built the bodies for the Lotus Eleven, once told me that Chapman requested that he use fewer rivets in the body construction to reduce; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00142.html (8,810 bytes)
12. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: "Michael D. Porter" <mporter@zianet.com>; Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:00:18 -0700; Couldn't weigh in on this at the time... burned yet another keyboard and had to get another. All the above is true, perhaps broadly, or in some cases, just in detail. But, with regard to the wet slee; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00147.html (17,548 bytes)
13. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: n197tr4@cs.com; Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:00:44 -0500; That furtive sound you heard last night was Jack Drews slipping into New Blue's 'bedroom' to remove all of her lockwashers.; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00148.html (16,137 bytes)
14. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: "Michael D. Porter" <mporter@zianet.com>; Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 07:55:49 -0700; Umm. Maybe a little math is required. Assume 200 lockwashers per car. Assume 3 grams per lockwasher, average. That's 1.34 lbs. per car. Since mass is a simple variable (directly proportional) in the; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00149.html (9,639 bytes)
15. RE: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: "Susan and Jack Brooks" <tr3a@att.net>; Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:02:56 -0800; As with Michael, I found that time alone allowed for additional torquing with composite gaskets. I first discovered this with my Norton motorcycle. The "flame ring" gasket at the bottom of the jugs; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00150.html (9,668 bytes)
16. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Chuck Arnold <Chuck.Arnold@oracle.com>; Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:59:14 -0800; This has been a most interesting string. I will be putting the head back on my block TR6 next weekend using a teflon coated gasket. Will use the "take your time between cycles" approach. Would never; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00151.html (10,336 bytes)
17. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: "elliottd" <elliottd@look.ca>; Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:24:31 -0500; When I bought my TR3A new in May 1958, it had been "born" on February 14th - St. Valentine's Day (a Friday by the way). All the very early 1958 TR3A's with the wide grilles left Coventry with no air; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00152.html (9,829 bytes)
18. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: Irv Korey <emanteno@attglobal.net>; Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:22:34 -0600; And then we wouldn't have to give up the chicken fried steak!; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00153.html (8,285 bytes)
19. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: "Michael D. Porter" <mporter@zianet.com>; Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:31:42 -0700; On the still similar subject, Bill Babcock related a funny story about vibration and an old BSA he had, and it reminded me that up until the time bus production ceased here, we were still using lockw; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00154.html (10,349 bytes)
20. Re: Retorquing head gaskets (score: 1): Author: WEmery7451@aol.com; Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:51:49 EST; << Because of the very old, and still suspect, study showing that saccharine was carcinogenic in mice studies, Loctite was carcinogenic--it's about 6% saccharine. >> I better quit biting the end of t; /html/fot/2003-02/msg00156.html (8,209 bytes)

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