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1. Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Urschel" <osp13@mybluelight.com>
Date: 23 May 2003 05:53:02 -0000
Various autox addicts with light wallets posted: Charlie has a fun STS car available for $1995 that isn't all that uncompetitive. I have not one but two rather expensive high maintenance cars that ar
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00261.html (8,052 bytes)

2. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: Sean Bradshaw <sean@spintec.org>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:32:13 -0700
Yeah but how much do they spend to get that far? They aren't national champions overnight, or in their first car I'd imagine. -Sean after contingencies.
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00262.html (7,690 bytes)

3. Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "John F. Kelly Jr." <76067.1750@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 11:36:54 -0400
Message text written by "Richard Urschel" "Various autox addicts with light wallets posted: want to be competitive. the pack..." -- End Original Message -- A clever person in any given class can do i
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00263.html (8,439 bytes)

4. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:00:48 -0700
A fellow named Robert Nielsen, San Jose, CA, in an Opel GT won E Stock in 1973. Following the idea that a new class is the best place to take a shot at winning, 1973 was the first year of Nationals.
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00265.html (9,396 bytes)

5. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:28:22 -0700
the cheapest way to autocross is to drive someone else's car. lets compare the costs per year: competitive car, depreciation: $4,000 mild SP or SM level development: $3,000 at least plus 300 hours of
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00268.html (9,845 bytes)

6. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: Ms Katie Kelly <aceontour@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT)
I somehow felt like I was spending less autocrossing my own car, but without co-drivers. I never did the math. One set of Kumhos ($400) lasted me the whole year (and more), yet with co-drivers, it se
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00270.html (8,596 bytes)

7. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: Toy4speed@aol.com
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 14:33:39 EDT
ohh ohh, the reality is sinking in....gotta ignore the voices ! Don L.
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00273.html (8,977 bytes)

8. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Richard Urschel" <osp13@mybluelight.com>
Date: 23 May 2003 18:35:41 -0000
I would be most happy to share the costs of my car(s) with a co-driver using your math. Want to co-drive in SFR, AAS, and Sac Cup next year? No problem, $20,700. You could even keep the car. Rich Sig
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00274.html (8,725 bytes)

9. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 13:05:03 -0700
Exactly! I always suspected it was my co-driver that caused the incredible tire wear, cone marks, and broken fog lights. -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00276.html (8,685 bytes)

10. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "John F. Kelly Jr." <76067.1750@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 19:53:44 -0400
You forgot to include $24 for an annual subscription to Pylon. The price hasn't changed in over 12 years. --John Kelly
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00286.html (8,510 bytes)

11. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: Memidland@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 21:43:46 EDT
I have a possible solotion. Spend a whole bunch of money on the car than simply sit back and do what all your friends advise you. Thanks to you all I may be ahead of Chris. Finally.
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00292.html (8,632 bytes)

12. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Josh Sirota" <josh@sirota.org>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 01:55:31 -0700
I've never done the math in my 16 years of autocrossing, at least, not until this year. This year it started feeling very expensive! I guessed it's the big 18" tires (over $1000/set). Rex and I have
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00295.html (9,085 bytes)

13. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 07:55:23 -0700
this is very important: DO NOT keep track of the costs. it will make you ill, or worse, take up road racing =) my estimate of $10,000/year for car expenses is probably middle-of-the-road. some spend
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00296.html (10,551 bytes)

14. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 08:20:53 -0700
I wonder if the C Mod FF you had wasn't much less expensive than the Bimmer? Tire wear? Much less, lighter car, smaller tires, less wear, last longer. With more use, I suspect Atwater will be less ab
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00298.html (9,969 bytes)

15. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Josh Sirota" <josh@sirota.org>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 12:16:23 -0700
There's no question that the Formula Ford was a lot less expensive in every way than the BMW. Car was A LOT cheaper (and I ultimately sold it for more than I paid for it, though I did some work to it
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00300.html (10,818 bytes)

16. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: CCoxx@aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 15:41:31 EDT
Mike Maier and I were talking about tire wear at Atwater in our Prepared We both agree that the tire wear for us is much less than the stock and street prepared cars. For example Josh and I have run
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00301.html (9,241 bytes)

17. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: Ms Katie Kelly <aceontour@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:16:51 -0700 (PDT)
Everything you say is true, but you usually need other things to run prepared, like a house, trailer, tow rig, gas for tow rig. You can run your daily driver in stock. I don't understand why anyone w
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00303.html (8,873 bytes)

18. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:41:35 -0700
Entry fees went from $20 to $25? I doubt that even keeps up with inflation. I guess I'm just pointing out it can be less expensive to run in a Modified, CM specifically, than a Stock class. Other Mod
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00304.html (11,972 bytes)

19. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:46:09 -0700
Is he looking for the business? :) Does that include engine? I agree a P car can give many years of enjoyment, but flexibility with rules' changes can drive an owner nuts! One would hope the percepti
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00306.html (9,877 bytes)

20. Re: Terribly expensive sport (score: 1)
Author: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:50:14 -0700
Tire wear issue: weight and camber settings are problems in stock classes. In a P car, the weight is less, and good camber can get rid of much of the tire wear. As an example, our 7 (very lightweight
/html/ba-autox/2003-05/msg00307.html (10,200 bytes)


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