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1. A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: dg50@daimlerchrysler.com
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:41:28 -0500
I've been tossing this problem around in my head for the last couple of days - I've got the concept, but I'm having trouble putting an equation on it. It's pissing me off - I know this stuff, dammit!
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00866.html (8,734 bytes)

2. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Kent Rafferty" <gs96@sgi.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:10:51 -0500
I'll need to poll the audience or call a friend... :-) Kent Rafferty out the care. we same velocity V. momentum of the same a uneffected, the
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00867.html (9,209 bytes)

3. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:23:03 -0600
<snip> 2f and 2m, we accelerate at the same So far, so good. identical velocity V. Right on. a momentum of maintain the same maintaining a Nope. acceleration?) Yep. Well, f = m*asubc = m*v^2/r, where
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00868.html (9,291 bytes)

4. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Brad Cox" <coxb@trimofran.org>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:22:32 -0600
the same a uneffected, I think the lateral acceleration would be the same for car B, assuming they are both travelling the same speed around a given turn and car B has twice the mass. (F=2MA or F/2=
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00869.html (8,822 bytes)

5. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: David K Yeung <dkyeung@juno.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:31:43 -0600
you've figured most of it out for yourself already. if both cars have the same speed through the turn, then the heavier car must achieve more lateral grip. And if both cars have the same speed throug
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00871.html (10,399 bytes)

6. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: dg50@daimlerchrysler.com
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:25:40 -0500
Aha! A good answer. Yeah, I kinda thought that sounded dodgy... OK, so here's the essentials Car A: Mass of m, thrust of F Car B: Mass of 2m, thrust of 2F as F/m = 2F/2M, both cars accelerate the sam
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00872.html (8,878 bytes)

7. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 11:53:02 -0600
Dennis responds: <snip> There's where you've gotten. Available grip =~ Cf*W, where Cf = tire coefficent of friction, assumed constant to a first approximation, and W = force on the tire normal to the
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00873.html (9,612 bytes)

8. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Matt Murray" <mattm@optonline.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:02:38 -0500
But is that your FINAL answer?? Matt Murray Isn't "polling the audience" what happens at the BFG Talent show Thursday nights in Topeka? mailto:mattm@optonline.net
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00874.html (8,433 bytes)

9. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: dg50@daimlerchrysler.com
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:30:27 -0500
Well, there's where the model falls on it's face. That's the "classical friction" model that works for most everything except the pnuematic tire. While it's true that a tire generates more grip with
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00875.html (10,312 bytes)

10. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:37:21 -0600
Frodo is not a Pokemon. I can't believe the guy didn't know that. Where's he been? And that's MY final answer. Jay "Where's my million dollars?" Mitchell
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00876.html (8,540 bytes)

11. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Matt Murray" <mattm@optonline.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:46:08 -0500
Maybe Regis is Frodo? :^) Matt Murray mailto:mattm@optonline.net
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00877.html (8,777 bytes)

12. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:50:17 -0600
Matt replied: Then who's Gollum? Jay
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00878.html (8,583 bytes)

13. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:48:42 -0600
Uhh, no. Take a look at the skidpad figures achieved by various BMW, Mercedes, Jaguar, Lexus, etc. boats in magazine skidpad tests and compare them with the same figures for much smaller cars. You mi
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00879.html (10,903 bytes)

14. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Matt Murray" <mattm@optonline.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:52:52 -0500
Easy, Kathy Lee! :^) Matt Murray mailto:mattm@optonline.net
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00880.html (8,707 bytes)

15. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: Alan Pozner <AlanP@identicard.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:11:28 -0500
DG wrote in part: the same a uneffected, First of all this is all idealized physics and does not apply to the real world (we are not taking aerodynamics into account for example) To go around the sam
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00881.html (9,819 bytes)

16. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: JonesMB <jonesmb@home.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:08:20 -0600
days - This is the response I got from a friend -- forwarded message -- If we idealize the system and ignore shocks, springs etc..anything that would affect transient behavior, and replace the turn w
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00883.html (9,342 bytes)

17. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:17:54 -0500 (EST)
Is now a good time to point out that this doens't have much to do with real life? Like, fer instance, car b will have more grip _because_ it has more mass? (just being a wiseass. I assume you're loo
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00886.html (8,735 bytes)

18. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: Doug Miller <drmiller@cyberhighway.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:52:11 -0700
Sorry if I'm late, but digest only for me! Some folks have mentioned that skid pad figures are primarily a function of tire design/compound and size. Bigger, heavier, expensive cars tend to have nice
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00926.html (10,359 bytes)

19. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: Jay Mitchell <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:07:05 -0800
That's correct. Yes, and doubling the mass would reduce a car's steady-state cornering capability. I never said otherwise. I DID say it wouldn't reduce the car's capacity in direct proportion to the
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00933.html (9,882 bytes)

20. Re: A Friday Physics Problem (score: 1)
Author: dg50@daimlerchrysler.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:07:09 -0500
There's the rub - it doesn't. And the heavier car is going to have a harder time making that turn - more momentum, more energy, more inertia. Looks like I have to buy a textbook. DG
/html/autox/1999-11/msg00941.html (8,136 bytes)


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