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181. Re: ST tire options (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:51:48 -0500; You might not agree with it, but this WAS the original intent of the ST class. Even says so right in the rule book, it's a "recruitment and retention tool". I do NOT feel that it needs to be limited; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00988.html (12,465 bytes)
182. Re: Katie Kelly protest (protestors side) (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:11:24 -0500; Hearing your side of the story, I understand where you were coming from. My only disappointment stems from the fact that you didn't arrange this with Katie first. You could have told her way before s; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00990.html (9,616 bytes)
183. Re: ST tire options (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:42:01 -0500; hard the rocks. That won't stop the people with money from purchasing a shaved set immediately prior to Nationals if the rules allow it. -- Loren Williams | Homepage - http://home.kscable.com/shad '9; /html/autox/1999-09/msg00993.html (8,613 bytes)
184. Re: Katie Kelly protest (protestors side) (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:57:21 -0500; If I'd protested someone that I knew, on the basis of getting a rules clarification, I'd have been sitting there with them. I'd have made it perfectly clear why I filed the protest and what my expect; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01007.html (10,211 bytes)
185. Re: ST tire options (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:31:27 -0500; Ron is obviously an excellent driver, I was impressed. As for his Yok's, they had less than 2/32nd of tread. All of the cars that placed below him had full-tread tires. -- Loren Williams | Homepage -; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01021.html (8,719 bytes)
186. Re: ST tire options (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:03:30 -0500; Yes, and still get beat by $200+ tires that have more tread... even the shaved ones. -- Loren Williams | Homepage - http://home.kscable.com/shad '94 Saturn SC2 | Wichita Region SCCA - http://www2.sou; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01037.html (8,656 bytes)
187. Re: [RE: ST tire options] (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:56:59 -0500; Thanks for the feedback. True, generally speaking, the best of the best street tires are very expensive. They are also not available in a wide variety of sizes, as you noted. This is why I propose a; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01101.html (8,532 bytes)
188. Re: ST tire opinions (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:11:53 -0500; As I said in my opening statement (would the court recorder please read back the opening statement?), I felt that all of the cars were equally capable. Perhaps some were better prepared than others,; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01121.html (10,973 bytes)
189. Re: ST tire options (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:18:35 -0500; I remember someone saying that they were, but I don't remember who it was. I didn't study them that closely myself other than to write down what they were and what size. I did this in grid in the mid; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01122.html (9,038 bytes)
190. Re: ST tire options (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:32:11 -0500; I can think of at least 15 people who disagreed with you enough to compete in said class at Nationals. Does that not speak for itself? Let me ask you, how much money did you spend on tires this year?; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01124.html (10,937 bytes)
191. Re: Street Prepared Streetability (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:44:28 -0500; I don't know how or why I let myself get sucked into these silly debates! Anyone notice that the "top SP cars" that have been declared as streetable so far have all been ESP cars? There are (...a ..; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01136.html (8,226 bytes)
192. Re: [RE: ST tire options] (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:20:15 -0500; This jives with what I've been saying since I got into my first street-tire vs. R-tire debate way back when. If your tires are 15" or smaller, R-tires are not necessarily cheaper. If your tires are 1; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01140.html (10,919 bytes)
193. Re: Car numbers at Nationals (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:24:18 -0500; In true TLS fashion, my numbers for Nats were cut out of a $2 roll of white shelf paper. They looked good, stuck well (even in the rain) and I still have about 36 square feet of white shelf paper lef; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01159.html (9,097 bytes)
194. Re: Street Prepared Streetability (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:32:24 -0500; A. I hate driving my wife's car if I can avoid it. (underpowered automatic with mushy suspension) B. I don't particularly enjoy being a passenger when my wife is driving. (!) C. My wife won't drive m; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01164.html (8,299 bytes)
195. Re: ST tire options (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:17:14 -0500; You're exactly as much help as Dennis Grant was on this topic. If nobody thought a National street tire class was viable, it never would have been offered. Or, if it had been offered, 15 people would; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01174.html (10,160 bytes)
196. Re: ST tire opinions (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:20:37 -0500; And it was also the most relevant point of my post. I don't think anyone has "the" answer. Like any other rules issue, there are many different options to be considered, and no real "right" answer. A; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01176.html (7,631 bytes)
197. Re: Fw: ES CRX's-was Re: Lets sound off... (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:46:49 -0500; Understood. Can't you adjust front ride height on CRX's with a simple torsion bar adjustment or something? (aside from that, the car probably has over 200k on it... it's bound to have some sag) My gu; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01265.html (10,583 bytes)
198. Re: Miata roll-over (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:04:05 -0500; Man, that was downright depressing. (also brought back memories of when I flipped my Mom's Spitfire when I was 16...) -- Loren Williams | Homepage - http://home.kscable.com/shad '94 Saturn SC2 | Wich; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01271.html (7,620 bytes)
199. Re: ST tire options and more musings (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:25:05 -0500; Please do. It seems as though most of the Street Tire guys keep pretty quiet, while all the R-tire guys campaign that we don't need our own class just because they don't want to run in it. Way to go,; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01284.html (7,190 bytes)
200. Re: ST tire options (score: 1): Author: Loren Williams <Loren@kscable.com>; Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:30:11 -0500; Too bad there was a heavy dose of sarcasm in that statement, huh? It's the same old message, guys who like to run on R-tires don't think anyone should compete on street tires. Nothing new there. I sa; /html/autox/1999-09/msg01285.html (10,330 bytes)

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