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Re: [WPTA] How Fast is Too Fast?

To: Gerald Van Vlack <jerryvvtr4a@gmail.com>, Gerald Van Vlack via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>, "Ross, Lawrence" <LawrenceRoss@allstate.com>, EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [WPTA] How Fast is Too Fast?
From: JIM UNDERWOOD via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 09:29:21 -0400 (EDT)
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Haven't been on many of these lately but we did decide to do Ken's run this=
 past weekend.   Great job Ken.  Guess I'm just old but anymore I enjoy the=
 destination a lot more than the driving.  I think many of us like to think=
 of these cars as great handling sportscars in the manner of a vintage race=
r.  In reality, my minivan probably handles and stops better than your aver=
age LBC.  I can see the liability issue.  Things are just different today. =
 When I first joined, the club bought a keg of beer for all the meetings.  =
That obviously had to change.   On a lighter note.......The late great Geor=
ge Carlin once said.  "While driving, did you ever notice that anyone going=
 slower than you is an asshole but anyone going faster is a maniac ! "  LOL=
.  =20

> On 10/02/2023 5:19 PM EDT Gerald Van Vlack via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>=
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> I have to say I agree. Club liability is at risk if an unfortunate event =
should occur being as how it's a club sponsered event. I used to like drivi=
ng fast but I don't trust myself as much as I once did. I really don't trus=
t oncoming traffic at all. Too much to lose.
> JVV
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> From: Wpta <wpta-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of EDWARD WOODS via Wp=
ta <wpta@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 1:36 PM
> To: Ross, Lawrence <LawrenceRoss@allstate.com>; Ross, Lawrence via Wpta <=
wpta@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [WPTA] How Fast is Too Fast?
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> Too fast on an official WPTA event is anything over the posted speed limi=
t. Period.
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> > On 10/02/2023 9:44 AM EDT Ross, Lawrence via Wpta <wpta@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
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> > How Fast is Too Fast?
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> > As the =E2=80=9Cunofficial=E2=80=9D Risk Manager of the WPTA (and leade=
r of the Wolfpack), we have had a pristine record over the past 23 years th=
at I have been involved with the Club.
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> > So, my question of the day is: How Fast is Too Fast?
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> > Let=E2=80=99s remember that although I do drive at a =E2=80=9Cbrisk pac=
e=E2=80=9D, I know when it=E2=80=99s too fast for conditions.
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> > It was recently brought to my attention of WPTA vehicles reaching speed=
s of 81 miles per hour on a recent back roads tour. Remember that a lot of =
these roads are 2 lane sweepers and blind bends. Shear disaster can always =
be waiting around the next corner.
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> > So, here=E2=80=99s the story of the day: =E2=80=9CWhen my son received =
his driver's license, I had a conversation involving thinking with the big =
head and not the little head=E2=80=9D.
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> > =20
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> > So, let=E2=80=99s try to drive Responsibly!
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> > Larry Ross
> > Membership Director
> > (412) 780-8495 tel:(412)780-8495 - cell
> > _______________________________________________
> > wpta@autox.team.net
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Haven't been on=
 many of these lately but we did decide to do Ken's run this past weekend.&=
nbsp; &nbsp;Great job Ken.&nbsp; Guess I'm just old but anymore I enjoy the=
 destination a lot more than the driving.&nbsp; I think many of us like to =
think of these cars as great handling sportscars in the manner of a vintage=
 racer.&nbsp; In reality, my minivan probably handles and stops better than=
 your average LBC.&nbsp; I can see the liability issue.&nbsp; Things are ju=
st different today.&nbsp; When I first joined, the club bought a keg of bee=
r for all the meetings.&nbsp; That obviously had to change.&nbsp; &nbsp;On =
a lighter note.......The late great George Carlin once said.&nbsp; "While d=
riving, did you ever notice that anyone going slower than you is an asshole=
 but anyone going faster is a maniac ! "&nbsp; LOL.&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>
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    On 10/02/2023 5:19 PM EDT Gerald Van Vlack via Wpta &lt;wpta@autox.team=
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    I have to say I agree. Club liability is at risk if an unfortunate even=
t should occur being as how it's a club sponsered event. I used to like dri=
ving fast but I don't trust myself as much as I once did. I really don't tr=
ust oncoming traffic at all. Too much to lose.
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    JVV
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 on behalf of EDWARD WOODS via Wpta &lt;wpta@autox.team.net&gt;<br><strong>=
Sent:</strong> Monday, October 2, 2023 1:36 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Ross=
, Lawrence &lt;LawrenceRoss@allstate.com&gt;; Ross, Lawrence via Wpta &lt;w=
pta@autox.team.net&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [WPTA] How Fast is =
Too Fast?</span>=20
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     Too fast on an official WPTA event is anything over the posted speed l=
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      On 10/02/2023 9:44 AM EDT Ross, Lawrence via Wpta &lt;wpta@autox.team=
.net&gt; wrote:
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      <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal x_ContentPasted0">As the =E2=80=9Cunofficial=
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d a pristine record over the past 23 years that I have been involved with t=
he Club.</p>=20
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      <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal x_ContentPasted0">So, my question of the day =
is: How Fast is Too Fast?</p>=20
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      <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal x_ContentPasted0">Let=E2=80=99s remember that=
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=80=99s too fast for conditions.</p>=20
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      <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal x_ContentPasted0">It was recently brought to =
my attention of WPTA vehicles reaching speeds of 81 miles per hour on a rec=
ent back roads tour. Remember that a lot of these roads are 2 lane sweepers=
 and blind bends. Shear disaster can always be waiting around the next corn=
er.</p>=20
      <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal x_ContentPasted0">&nbsp;</p>=20
      <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal x_ContentPasted0">So, here=E2=80=99s the stor=
y of the day: =E2=80=9CWhen my son received his driver's license, I had a c=
onversation involving thinking with the big head and not the little head=E2=
=80=9D.</p>=20
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      <p class=3D"x_MsoNormal x_ContentPasted0">So, let=E2=80=99s try to dr=
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        <span style=3D"font-family: Calibri;"><strong>Larry Ross</strong></=
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        <span style=3D"font-family: calibri;"><strong><a href=3D"tel:(412)7=
80-8495">(412) 780-8495</a> - cell</strong></span>
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