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From: "David R. Mapes" <dmapes@erols.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:43:40 -0400
I'll check with my tire guy, he still had a line on it
last time I talked to him about it.

At 03:26 PM 8/31/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Would like to buy that Dart.  Know where it is?
>
>Pat Ryan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net
>[mailto:owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David R. Mapes
>Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 1:22 PM
>To: vintage-race@autox.team.net
>Subject: 
>
>HeeHee,
>
>Well, defending the pre 12/31/72 rule based on preserving the
>value of "real" A-sedan/TransAm cars is kind of silly.  If
>your worried about the car's value as an investment, don't
>race it, because sooner or later you'll end up spending FAR more
>in maintenance that you did on the car (silly from an economic
>perspective).  Even if you don't wad it up.  I found a '66 
>TransAm Dart a few years ago for $32K, As is.  I could have gotten 
>it on the track for another $15K, but couldn't justify $32K for 
>a clapped out Dart <BFG>.  I'd feel a lot better about the 12/31/72
>rule if it were applied evenly across all run groups, but (last
>time I checked) it only applied to the A-sedan/TransAm run group in
>SVRA, which smacks more of an effort on the part of the wine & 
>cheese crowd to keep the rednecks out than to preserve the 
>dubious investment value of the cars.  
>
>While I'm not really an advocate of a Run-What-Ch'a Brung rule
>set (period correctness definitely has its place in all this),
>I do think a correctly prepared "new" A-sedan/TransAm car, represented
>as such, should be allowed unless the grid is full with "real" 
>cars (not that I don't have an ax to grind here <BFG>).  In the mean 
>time any clone car prepared to '67 GCR, except for tires, can 
>run current SCCA Solo II C Prepared and be fairly competitive
>locally (had a win with the Barracuda last year, even with the
>VERY tired 273 (spun an rod bearing after the following event/
>used to joke that it was part of the SCCA's Mosquito control
>program)).
>
>If the sanctioning bodies really want to protect (as opposed to 
>inflate) the value of the cars they should start tracking 
>them by VIN so when a "new" car comes into the system it is 
>forever known as such and drop the history exclusion.  After all,
>I've heard anecdotally, that $24K was offered (and turned down) 
>for a certain A-body Chrysler homage car racing on the west coast.  
>This is a car (and owner) that makes no bones about being a 
>copy, the car runs mid-pack and provides LOTS of fun and a good
>show, but is NOT a high buck piece.  He (like me) does as much 
>work himself as he can and is just in the sport to have fun.  
>Considering that the top "value" for concourse winning early 
>A-Bodies is maybe $15K, that's a pretty good "investment" 
>(especially when you figure in the grins factor), although 
>nowhere near what's been "invested".  
>
>Me, I still drive both my cars on the street on a regular basis 
>(don't own a trailer yet), and even use them to commute across 
>DC on occasion.  I can't see owning a pony car that can't function 
>as a back up commuter, so its unlikely I'd ever buy a Bud Moore 
>Boss 302 even if I could afford it.
>
>All IMHO, YMMV etc...
>All the Best!  Dave  ;^)
>'66 Formula S Barracuda, CP/Vinatage (GoldFish)
>'66 C code Mustang Coup, CP (Ol'Beastly)
>'91 Sundance, HS (150,000 miles and counting)
>'97 Cherokee 
>Lame Horse Racing
>College Park, MD 
>http://www.erols.com/dmapes/
All the Best!  Dave  ;^)
'66 Formula S Barracuda, CP/Vinatage (GoldFish)
'66 C code Mustang Coup, CP (Ol'Beastly)
'91 Sundance, HS (150,000 miles and counting)
'97 Cherokee 
Lame Horse Racing
College Park, MD 
http://www.erols.com/dmapes/

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