In a message dated 09/10/2001 10:08:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Richard_Tillinger@Dresser-Rand.com writes:
Dick,
Thanks for this timely information. I believe that what you say reinforces my
statement concerning the SPL310 & 311 cars that are now in Group one. We
consider 1967 to be the year of preparation for Group one. That pretty much
rules out front valence mods and flares. Even Group 3 where the SRL is now
classed there is a similar standard. However, as you stated, the Spook, etc.
are appropriate for these cars almost from the beginning of their
racing.Therefore, I will allow these in Group 3 and probably would put a 1600
with this type device there rather than Group 8 which includes later but
faster cars. It is really a case by case situation.
Jack Woehrle
> Subj:Re: Air dam ?s
> Date:09/10/2001 10:08:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: Richard_Tillinger@Dresser-Rand.com (Tillinger, Richard (OLN))
> To: JWoesvra@aol.com ('JWoesvra@aol.com')
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> Jack,
>
> Glad to meet you at last this past weekend. How do you have time to do all
> the stuff you have to do at the races, and still post e-mails??? (good job
> on everything, BTW)
>
> Anyway, I didn't want to get into a pissing contest "in public", but since I
> know a bit of the history of Datsun Roadsters, I thought I'd send you my
> comments based on what I THINK I know ("in the cobwebs in the windmills of
> my mind"); your results may vary!
>
>
> To the best of my knowledge: BRE was the very first to run non-factory air
> dams/spoilers/brake ducts on ANY SCCA "production sports car", on their
> Datsun 2000 Roadsters. They called it a "Spook", and it was protested (I
> think possibly by themselves to prove the validity of running a spoiler
> disguised as huge brake scoops). I am not positive when they started doing
> this, but it was most likely 1968. BRE never fielded any 1600's. I must
> admit (as owner of Bob Sharp's 2-liter Roadster) that he never ran an air
> dam on any of his Roadsters, although I have run one at SVRA events (in
> Group 6 and later in Group 8), and other Roadster owners are doing the same.
>
>
>
> Feel free to post any/all/none of the above paragraph in the vintage
> newsletter as you see fit.
>
> Interesting sidelight (again to the best of my knowledge): Bob Sharp was the
> guy who first fielded a prod car (240Z) with a spoiler extending beyond the
> centerline of the tires. Early photos of Sharp's Z (in maroon, not red,
> white, and blue) in '70-'71 (without fender flares) show a separate aluminum
> spoiler, extending to the centerline of the tires. Later photos, with fender
> flares, show a fiberglass spoiler still extending to the centerline of the
> tires, but the fender flares came down as low as the spoiler, essentially
> making the spoiler full width (i.e., there was a "seam" at the centerline of
> the tires, between the "spoiler" and the "fender flare"). When he was
> protested, he said that that wasn't a spoiler out there, just part of the
> fender flare (hey, how can you flare a part of the fender that's not
> there???), and it was allowed. The rules were changed, and even later photos
> show the spoiler extending all the way, without the seam.
>
> Keep up the good work & regards,
> Dick Tillinger
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