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Re: Fiat 124 vs MGB

To: peterv@tri-county.main.nc.us, pkrause@attglobal.net,
Subject: Re: Fiat 124 vs MGB
From: "Roger Sieling" <sarl45@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:11:22 -0500
And a little welding repair between track sessions on the frame or rear 
suspension of that fine silver fish, but I suppose we weren't supposed to 
see you do it.


>From: "Peter van Rossum" <peterv@tri-county.main.nc.us>
>Reply-To: "Peter van Rossum" <peterv@tri-county.main.nc.us>
>To: "Peter Krause" <pkrause@attglobal.net>,   
><vintage-race-digest@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Fiat 124 vs MGB
>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:01:01 -0500
>
>OK YOU ASKED FOR IT !!.   YOU CANT BEAT GERMAN ENGINEERING  AND THAT'S A
>
>  FACT . I WATCH ALL YOU FOOLS BECOME SLAVES TO YOUR BRITISH AND ITALIAN
>
>RACE CARS ON RACE WEEKENDS AND ALL I HAVE EVER HAD TO DO ON RACE
>
>WEEKENDS IS ADD OIL NO DNF EVER IN A ENDURO    .all i need is adiet and 
>more
>power CRAZY PETE
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Peter Krause <pkrause@attglobal.net>
>To: <vintage-race-digest@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:47 PM
>Subject: Re: Fiat 124 vs MGB
>
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > There is no question that in vintage circles the MGB's are pretty well
> > developed, but I sure like the Fiat 124. Don Munoz, Les Gonda and John
> > Targett are the MGB pace-setters, good drivers in good, straight, legal,
> > fast cars. There is always Cambridge Motorsports stuff if you want to
> > develop the B engine further ;-) but Robert Vick and Mr. Rodgers in 
>Texas
> > and myself try to "take it to them" every chance we get! To me there is 
>no
> > comparison, Italian looks, handling and style versus literally British
> > "Iron." Fire away, boys!
> >
> > I race a Fiat 124 because it is what I can afford, I love the way it
>sounds
> > and because my first professional job turning wrenches was in a Fiat
> > dealership in Durham, North Carolina founded in 1967 and operating out 
>of
>an
> > old tobacco warehouse, sure smelled good! I raced a Fiat 850 Spider for
>many
> > years, built six more for customers and wanted something quicker. Well,
>the
> > 124 is certainly quicker. The 1438cc and 1608cc engines are tough to 
>come
>by
> > but share the same architecture. The 1438cc (G Production) is not well
> > classed in most organizations but one did win the the SCCA Runoffs this
> > year. I have a 1438cc that I can "plug in" my car that sat on the front
>row
> > of the G Production grid at the Runoffs at Road Atlanta in 1991, but 
>it's
> > enough of a grenade that I save it for a spare. I ran a 1608cc for five
> > years and have now moved up to the more available 1756cc engine, since
>both
> > engines have been for a long time been classified in F Production. The
>MGB's
> > are currently (and have always been, I believe) classed in E Production.
> > There is a distinct lack of "go fast" parts which limits me to the use 
>of
> > stock gearbox and rear axle ratios, but you can adapt Chevy connecting
>rods
> > and have pistons made. It's a great, relatively inexpensive race car and
>is
> > getting increasingly common on the vintage scene (mine IS for sale). I
>know
> > of two going together in my neck of the woods (one fellow has my old 
>1608)
> > and several 2-liter cars in Texas (the most modern iteration of the
>classic
> > Fiat Twin Cam.) In closing, I view the German cars, bigger, heavier TR's
>AND
> > MGB's as rivals on the track to the 124, but they are ALL evocative of 
>the
> > reason why we do this madness in the first place, to have fun!
> >
> > -Peter Krause
> > www.krauseandengland.com

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